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> There is also no replacement for the overwhelming satisfaction and pride that hard work and determination inevitably leads to. Maybe the satisfaction and pri

> There is also no replacement for the overwhelming satisfaction and pride that hard work and determination inevitably leads to. Maybe the satisfaction and pride of clever work that saves us from the hard work? Animals do hard work too; grazing pastures all day, hunting for caloric surplus, living hand to mouth. It was the satisfaction of inventing tools that made humans humans. Maybe the real hard work is in thinking things through? Maybe what OP calls shortcuts are the optimal paths, and maybe finding the optimal paths are more important than wandering around? > This is an innate, selfish need we all have but one that belongs entirely to us and us alone. Or it is protestant work ethic overgeneralized. And it has failure modes, namely not all hard work is blessed, or it was not the case that "arbeit macht frei". > To be really good at anything means doing it a lot. If that was the case, for complex skillsets like being a software engineer, tenure would automatically mean promotion. Sure, it does somewhat correlate, but not everyone who does a thing a lot gets equally good at those, and those who get good at a thing did not do that thing in the same quantity. So there ought to be really good substitutes to hard work after all.

TimTheTinker 5y ago
>> This is an innate, selfish need we all have but one that belongs entirely to us and us alone. > Or it is protestant work ethic overgeneralized. The Protestant view would be that the "innate, selfish need we all have", as OP put it, is to serve in some way; and what differentiates people from one another isn't whether we serve, but whom we serve. > And it has failure modes, namely not all hard work is blessed, or it was not the case that "arbeit macht frei". Work is and always will be inherently hard or toilsome in some way. We may not have sweat on our brow, but we all do have hard and frustrating aspects to the work we do... I don't think protestants would call all work "blessed".
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > > Or it is protestant work ethic overgeneralized > The Protestant view While the “Protestant work ethic” concept holds that the ethic it describes is a consequence of certain Protestant (more specifically, Calvinist) beliefs, it does not intend to describe a general “Protestant view”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic

TimTheTinker 5y ago

>> This is an innate, selfish need we all have but one that belongs entirely to us and us alone. > Or it is protestant work ethic overgeneralized. The Protestant view would be that the "innate, selfish need we all have", as OP put it, is to serve in some way; and what differentiates people from one another isn't whether we serve, but whom we serve. > And it has failure modes, namely not all hard work is blessed, or it was not the case that "arbeit macht frei". Work is and always will be inherently hard or toilsome in some way. We may not have sweat on our brow, but we all do have hard and frustrating aspects to the work we do... I don't think protestants would call all work "blessed".

dragonwriter 5y ago
> > Or it is protestant work ethic overgeneralized > The Protestant view While the “Protestant work ethic” concept holds that the ethic it describes is a consequence of certain Protestant (more specifically, Calvinist) beliefs, it does not intend to describe a general “Protestant view”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic