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RWW should upload to BitChute and Odysee. Why not?

rvz 5y ago
Yes. We should be promoting these alternatives rather than complaining to tech giants that will never change or keep repeating the same 'mistakes' or 'accidents' all over again.
- darksaints 5y ago
  I had never heard of them so I just went and took a look at the front page of BitChute, and holy shit, that's gonna be a no from me.
  - ravenstine 5y ago
    It's a self perpetuating problem, though. The first people to migrate to new platforms are the first ones who got dejected from YouTube, and then the inner circle at Wikipedia label the platforms as "far right" in order to scare off the rest of society. In the case of BitChute, I think it'd merely be funny if RWW and possibly some other left-leaning channels decided to post there just to stick it to Google. Otherwise it's both a dumpster fire in terms of content and what they offer technologically speaking. They've made tons of promises over the years and never delivered. (it used to use WebTorrent, and they promised streaming years ago and that never happened either)
  - mdoms 5y ago
    I just took a look and yeah I'm going to take the hardest possible pass on that website. Yikes.
  - rvz 5y ago
    I do not care. It could be from BitChute, Odysee, Streamable, PeerTube, whatever. Some creators chose other alternatives over BitChute or another platform over that same reaction and still ignored YouTube. If they complain to YouTube, that they got their channel de-platformed again, for no reason other than 'The guidelines', I'm just going to laugh anyway. Just recently, another user on HN got a suspension notice on their YouTube account without warning. They would be wise not to go with YouTube again and find another alternative [0] And No, Vimeo is not even an option for some creators. [1] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27669715 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27669715 [1] https://twitter.com/thedak/status/1395367583503851524 https://twitter.com/thedak/status/1395367583503851524
rafale 5y ago
Because the issue is not putting content online. It's the discoverability and organise marketing only YouTube can provide in the foreseeable future.
mplewis 5y ago
Because no one wants their content appearing alongside white supremacist propaganda?
- edgyquant 5y ago
  This is a serious problem imo. Not sure how to fix it if you say you are less censored than YouTube (or any widely known tech company) “libertarians” and right wingers flock there and before long it becomes 4chan meets (YouTube, Twitter, Reddit) thus no one wants to visit and it becomes a loop/downward spiral.
busterarm 5y ago
RWW themselves lead the charge when it comes to smearing Alt-Tech. It would be extremely hypocritical of them.

rvz 5y ago

Yes. We should be promoting these alternatives rather than complaining to tech giants that will never change or keep repeating the same 'mistakes' or 'accidents' all over again.

darksaints 5y ago
I had never heard of them so I just went and took a look at the front page of BitChute, and holy shit, that's gonna be a no from me.
- ravenstine 5y ago
  It's a self perpetuating problem, though. The first people to migrate to new platforms are the first ones who got dejected from YouTube, and then the inner circle at Wikipedia label the platforms as "far right" in order to scare off the rest of society. In the case of BitChute, I think it'd merely be funny if RWW and possibly some other left-leaning channels decided to post there just to stick it to Google. Otherwise it's both a dumpster fire in terms of content and what they offer technologically speaking. They've made tons of promises over the years and never delivered. (it used to use WebTorrent, and they promised streaming years ago and that never happened either)
- mdoms 5y ago
  I just took a look and yeah I'm going to take the hardest possible pass on that website. Yikes.
- rvz 5y ago
  I do not care. It could be from BitChute, Odysee, Streamable, PeerTube, whatever. Some creators chose other alternatives over BitChute or another platform over that same reaction and still ignored YouTube. If they complain to YouTube, that they got their channel de-platformed again, for no reason other than 'The guidelines', I'm just going to laugh anyway. Just recently, another user on HN got a suspension notice on their YouTube account without warning. They would be wise not to go with YouTube again and find another alternative [0] And No, Vimeo is not even an option for some creators. [1] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27669715 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27669715 [1] https://twitter.com/thedak/status/1395367583503851524 https://twitter.com/thedak/status/1395367583503851524

rafale 5y ago

Because the issue is not putting content online. It's the discoverability and organise marketing only YouTube can provide in the foreseeable future.

mplewis 5y ago

Because no one wants their content appearing alongside white supremacist propaganda?

edgyquant 5y ago
This is a serious problem imo. Not sure how to fix it if you say you are less censored than YouTube (or any widely known tech company) “libertarians” and right wingers flock there and before long it becomes 4chan meets (YouTube, Twitter, Reddit) thus no one wants to visit and it becomes a loop/downward spiral.

busterarm 5y ago

RWW themselves lead the charge when it comes to smearing Alt-Tech. It would be extremely hypocritical of them.