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I mean no, you're not going to get banned for posting support for universal healthcare, ending the drug war, ending for-profit prisons, etc even though these ar

I mean no, you're not going to get banned for posting support for universal healthcare, ending the drug war, ending for-profit prisons, etc even though these are extreme left positions in current US politics. If you post misinformation telling people that it's illegal to charge for healthcare and that you can just throw out any medical bills you receive without recourse, or that drug laws are unconstitutional so you can't actually go to jail for them, or that private prisons don't count so you are allowed to break out of them, well yeah you might get banned!

steve76 5y ago
The one extreme position, among others, is that you are unrestrained by laws. Liberals, Marxists, fascists, jihadis, the drug cartel, and criminals, all have that in common. Win, do nothing but print money to line your own pockets. Loose, double the murder rate, burn cities, work with your Marxist friends to unleash a bioweapon on the world that kills millions, one of the worse mass murders in history. I'm banning you because I don't like you. Go away. If I liked you, you could do or say whatever you want. Anything. But I don't like you so you're banned. That's the honest reason. They don't say it because bailout time is coming up again and they don't want the Clara Petacci treatment.
perl4ever 5y ago
>you're not going to get banned for posting support for universal healthcare, ending the drug war, ending for-profit prisons, etc even though these are extreme left positions in current US politics Close to 2/3rds of the American public supports universal healthcare and ending the drug war. Therefore they can't by definition be extreme left positions. "63% of U.S. adults say the government has the responsibility to provide health care coverage for all" https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/29/increasing-share-of-americans-favor-a-single-government-program-to-provide-health-care-coverage/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/29/increasing-... '65% of voters support ending the “War on Drugs.”' https://drugpolicy.org/press-release/2021/06/50th-anniversary-war-drugs-new-poll-shows-majority-voters-support-ending https://drugpolicy.org/press-release/2021/06/50th-anniversar...
- p1necone 5y ago
  It's not that they are extreme left positions, it's that that other 35% thinks that universal healthcare, or abortion, or whatever === Stalinism and will paint moderate views as if they are extremism when disingenuously asking "why isn't the extreme left content taken down".
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Fellshard 5y ago
"Our extreme positions are just these cherry-picked sunshine and rainbows." "That's a dishonest framing, given you're neglecting this murderous position, that race essentialism position, and--" "Sunshine. And. Rainbows. :)"
dimitrios1 5y ago
This is an incredibly dishonest reply. No one thinks those are extreme anymore. Most of those made it to the mainstream democratic platform in the last primaries. If you can't figure out where the leftist extremism is, you aren't looking hard enough, or you are being willfully ignorant.
- p1necone 5y ago
  The point is that the right likes to paint those positions as dangerous extreme left ideas, and a lot of the time when someone says "but what about the extreme left" they are talking about those, and trying to make the argument that they're not being taken down - so obviously white supremacists and covid conspiracy theorists deserve to be on youtube too.
- tehwebguy 5y ago
  Close to zero legislators and media outlets at the national level will even tolerate discussions about these items outside of making fun of them.
ModernMech 5y ago
Those are pretty moderate left positions. If you want extreme left, you need to go out into the wilderness where people want to outright abolish money and overthrow capitalism.
- CaptainZapp 5y ago
  > you need to go out into the wilderness where people want to outright abolish money That seems more like a libertarian position to me.
  - ModernMech 5y ago
    Maybe libertarians like the idea, I don't know, but it's one of the core properties of idealized communism. From Wikipedia (emph added): > Communism ... is a philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is ... a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of ... money.

steve76 5y ago

The one extreme position, among others, is that you are unrestrained by laws. Liberals, Marxists, fascists, jihadis, the drug cartel, and criminals, all have that in common. Win, do nothing but print money to line your own pockets. Loose, double the murder rate, burn cities, work with your Marxist friends to unleash a bioweapon on the world that kills millions, one of the worse mass murders in history. I'm banning you because I don't like you. Go away. If I liked you, you could do or say whatever you want. Anything. But I don't like you so you're banned. That's the honest reason. They don't say it because bailout time is coming up again and they don't want the Clara Petacci treatment.

perl4ever 5y ago

>you're not going to get banned for posting support for universal healthcare, ending the drug war, ending for-profit prisons, etc even though these are extreme left positions in current US politics Close to 2/3rds of the American public supports universal healthcare and ending the drug war. Therefore they can't by definition be extreme left positions. "63% of U.S. adults say the government has the responsibility to provide health care coverage for all" https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/29/increasing-share-of-americans-favor-a-single-government-program-to-provide-health-care-coverage/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/29/increasing-... '65% of voters support ending the “War on Drugs.”' https://drugpolicy.org/press-release/2021/06/50th-anniversary-war-drugs-new-poll-shows-majority-voters-support-ending https://drugpolicy.org/press-release/2021/06/50th-anniversar...

p1necone 5y ago
It's not that they are extreme left positions, it's that that other 35% thinks that universal healthcare, or abortion, or whatever === Stalinism and will paint moderate views as if they are extremism when disingenuously asking "why isn't the extreme left content taken down".

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Fellshard 5y ago

"Our extreme positions are just these cherry-picked sunshine and rainbows." "That's a dishonest framing, given you're neglecting this murderous position, that race essentialism position, and--" "Sunshine. And. Rainbows. :)"

dimitrios1 5y ago

This is an incredibly dishonest reply. No one thinks those are extreme anymore. Most of those made it to the mainstream democratic platform in the last primaries. If you can't figure out where the leftist extremism is, you aren't looking hard enough, or you are being willfully ignorant.

p1necone 5y ago
The point is that the right likes to paint those positions as dangerous extreme left ideas, and a lot of the time when someone says "but what about the extreme left" they are talking about those, and trying to make the argument that they're not being taken down - so obviously white supremacists and covid conspiracy theorists deserve to be on youtube too.
tehwebguy 5y ago
Close to zero legislators and media outlets at the national level will even tolerate discussions about these items outside of making fun of them.

ModernMech 5y ago

Those are pretty moderate left positions. If you want extreme left, you need to go out into the wilderness where people want to outright abolish money and overthrow capitalism.

CaptainZapp 5y ago
> you need to go out into the wilderness where people want to outright abolish money That seems more like a libertarian position to me.
- ModernMech 5y ago
  Maybe libertarians like the idea, I don't know, but it's one of the core properties of idealized communism. From Wikipedia (emph added): > Communism ... is a philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is ... a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of ... money.