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Blog pingbacks already exist for ages. The point of comment sections is to provide a convenient avenue for discussion close to the source. The problem, IMHO, i
by lhorie 5y ago
Blog pingbacks already exist for ages. The point of comment sections is to provide a convenient avenue for discussion close to the source.
The problem, IMHO, is commenters seem to have become too entitled and forgot that comment sections are inherently "my house, my rules" spaces. It's a bit like shirts: yes you can take yours off, but not in my store. For the most part people are fine with that, and those who are not are seen as petulant and escorted out.
I don't see the problem with bloggers purging their comment sections of even mildly off-topic banter; and they're certainly well justified to kick out trolls.
- LudwigNagasena 5y agoA good example. What being entitled means is quite subjective. What’s the problem with not wearing a shirt? What women wear nowadays would be considered indecent to the point of being illegal 100 years ago, but a man without a shirt is a big no-no.
- xboxnolifes 5y agoIt doesn't matter if it's subjective.
- LudwigNagasena 5y agoOf course it matters. Whether something is subjective or not has nothing to do with whether something is reasonable or not.
- baby 5y agoHad not heard of blog pingback in like a decade. These were awful and I’m glad we got rid of them :D
- chipotle_coyote 5y agoWho is this "we" you speak of? Joking, mostly, but webmentions are still a thing and getting a touch more popular in some of my circles. I know not everyone liked them even back when they were new, but -- with the proviso that they need to be checked for spam just like conventional comments -- I generally found them to be have a better signal-to-noise ratio than all but the rarest (and usually most actively moderated!) comment sections. The effort in setting up a blog capable of receiving pingbacks/webmentions isn't that high, but it's higher than drive-by trolls and cranks are likely to want to put in.
- baby 5y agoMaybe now that they have less support, but back then it was only spam IIRC, or the same blog posted 10 times
- chipotle_coyote 5y agoI think webmention implementations tend to be smarter -- probably not universally, but generally -- about de-duplication than the older pingback implementations were, so you rarely see that weird flood of multiple links to the same place.
- throwawayboise 5y agoLow-barrier comment sections promote low-effort comments. The thing about writing and posting your own comments on your own blog is that it takes some effort, and that in itself is a filter for most insincere, seat-of-the-pants hot takes, drunkposting, etc.