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Sounds like the author should have a chat with dang and compare notes.

by SheinhardtWigCo 5y ago

paulpauper 5y ago
dang would tell him to have a feature to grey out troll comments
- f38zf5vdt 5y ago
  And when you find someone disagreeable, just give them the old "You're posting too fast, please slow down."
  - ttt0 5y ago
    Yeah, what's going on with this? If I did something wrong then just warn me first, because it comes out of nowhere and I have no idea what the hell is going on. How does it even work? Is it triggered automatically or what? Hey dang, you mind explaining this?
    - f38zf5vdt 5y ago
      https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/issues/21 https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/issues... It's not totally clear about how this works. It looks like I've been shadowbanned from making new posts at least temporarily, since when I tried to make a new post yesterday I was met with this error despite making no posts yesterday. I am not sure what the goal is. I already hit 500 so I've got the downvote, but maybe there's more rights and privileges that they want to keep me from obtaining with a higher upvote count?
raphlinus 5y ago
That's a large part of the reason I posted it. The situations are not exactly parallel though. Derek's blog is his space, and he absolutely has a right to curate it as he wishes, though in the past a laissez-faire approach has worked. I found this interesting for a few other reasons as well. It's a pretty solid data point that discourse around Covid is worse than around other scientific topics. Also, there are suggestions that a small number of people are purposefully stirring up shit (the fact that they didn't take hints that their mode of discourse was not welcome). I'm sure the same dynamic is at play on HN as well. Ultimately, we have to come up with strategies to deal with this. I'm hopeful that Derek's approach will work for his small (but excellent) corner of the Internet.
qbasic_forever 5y ago
HN has dedicated people like dang that moderate the comments. Derek only has himself and unfortunately it's now far too much burden for him to both write excellent content, and moderate an increasingly unruly comment section. I'm sure if someone funded Derek's blog to have dedicated moderators it could be whipped into shape and kept manageable, but who is going to write the checks?
- hprotagonist 5y ago
  and meanwhile, let’s not forget, dude is busy going to work and doing his real job! In The Pipeline is not his employment.

Sounds like the author should have a chat with dang and compare notes.

paulpauper 5y ago

dang would tell him to have a feature to grey out troll comments

f38zf5vdt 5y ago
And when you find someone disagreeable, just give them the old "You're posting too fast, please slow down."
- ttt0 5y ago
  Yeah, what's going on with this? If I did something wrong then just warn me first, because it comes out of nowhere and I have no idea what the hell is going on. How does it even work? Is it triggered automatically or what? Hey dang, you mind explaining this?
  - f38zf5vdt 5y ago
    https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/issues/21 https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/issues... It's not totally clear about how this works. It looks like I've been shadowbanned from making new posts at least temporarily, since when I tried to make a new post yesterday I was met with this error despite making no posts yesterday. I am not sure what the goal is. I already hit 500 so I've got the downvote, but maybe there's more rights and privileges that they want to keep me from obtaining with a higher upvote count?

raphlinus 5y ago

That's a large part of the reason I posted it. The situations are not exactly parallel though. Derek's blog is his space, and he absolutely has a right to curate it as he wishes, though in the past a laissez-faire approach has worked. I found this interesting for a few other reasons as well. It's a pretty solid data point that discourse around Covid is worse than around other scientific topics. Also, there are suggestions that a small number of people are purposefully stirring up shit (the fact that they didn't take hints that their mode of discourse was not welcome). I'm sure the same dynamic is at play on HN as well. Ultimately, we have to come up with strategies to deal with this. I'm hopeful that Derek's approach will work for his small (but excellent) corner of the Internet.

qbasic_forever 5y ago

HN has dedicated people like dang that moderate the comments. Derek only has himself and unfortunately it's now far too much burden for him to both write excellent content, and moderate an increasingly unruly comment section. I'm sure if someone funded Derek's blog to have dedicated moderators it could be whipped into shape and kept manageable, but who is going to write the checks?

hprotagonist 5y ago
and meanwhile, let’s not forget, dude is busy going to work and doing his real job! In The Pipeline is not his employment.