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I am asking the criteria as the factual characters, not its source... But I understand you. CCP labels everything coming from USA as propaganda as well. I do s

I am asking the criteria as the factual characters, not its source... But I understand you. CCP labels everything coming from USA as propaganda as well. I do see you and a lot of US people share a lot of common values of CCP, a bit ironically...

mannerheim 5y ago
A blanket ban of all Chinese content would be acceptable to me.
- justicezyx 5y ago
  Why? No one read Chinese in USA anyway. People are quite ignorant here. Had little appetite for alternative views, let alone content written in the most difficult language on earth...
  - mannerheim 5y ago
    CCP propaganda is in English, of course, and they openly run advertisements on the New York Times[0], despite NYT being blocked in China. You can also find numerous videos from state-owned media on YouTube, where they put some Uyghurs on camera to talk about how good life is in Xinjiang, as well as Twitter accounts that peddle apologia for concentration camps.[1] There's no reason America should allow China to peddle propaganda on platforms that are blocked in China. [0]: https://freebeacon.com/media/nyt-quietly-scrubs-chinese-propaganda/ https://freebeacon.com/media/nyt-quietly-scrubs-chinese-prop... [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-twitter/twitter-locks-account-of-chinas-u-s-embassy-over-its-defense-of-xinjiang-policy-idUSKBN29Q03O https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-twitter/twitter-loc...
CRConrad 5y ago
> I am asking the criteria as the factual characters, not its source... Yes, I understood that; that's why that was what I replied to. See also: > > And in fact, China does have laws to force operators to follow other Chinese laws, including censorship laws. [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27658931 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27658931 ] China has censorship laws. Therefore, anything that is allowed out of China is what China's censorship allows. The purpose of censorship is to suppress anything that could be construed as negative about the regime, i.e. allow only what is positive, i.e. propaganda. Hope that clears it up for you? > But I understand you. Actually, I sincerely doubt that. > CCP labels everything coming from USA as propaganda as well. I do see you and a lot of US people share a lot of common values of CCP, a bit ironically... Yeah, right. And for condemning Stalin, I must be Hitler; for condemning Hitler, I must be Stalin. For condemning both, I must be both Hitler and Stalin! Take that tired old propagandist trope and shove it somewhere, mr People's Democratic Justice.

mannerheim 5y ago

A blanket ban of all Chinese content would be acceptable to me.

justicezyx 5y ago
Why? No one read Chinese in USA anyway. People are quite ignorant here. Had little appetite for alternative views, let alone content written in the most difficult language on earth...
- mannerheim 5y ago
  CCP propaganda is in English, of course, and they openly run advertisements on the New York Times[0], despite NYT being blocked in China. You can also find numerous videos from state-owned media on YouTube, where they put some Uyghurs on camera to talk about how good life is in Xinjiang, as well as Twitter accounts that peddle apologia for concentration camps.[1] There's no reason America should allow China to peddle propaganda on platforms that are blocked in China. [0]: https://freebeacon.com/media/nyt-quietly-scrubs-chinese-propaganda/ https://freebeacon.com/media/nyt-quietly-scrubs-chinese-prop... [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-twitter/twitter-locks-account-of-chinas-u-s-embassy-over-its-defense-of-xinjiang-policy-idUSKBN29Q03O https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-twitter/twitter-loc...

CRConrad 5y ago

> I am asking the criteria as the factual characters, not its source... Yes, I understood that; that's why that was what I replied to. See also: > > And in fact, China does have laws to force operators to follow other Chinese laws, including censorship laws. [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27658931 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27658931 ] China has censorship laws. Therefore, anything that is allowed out of China is what China's censorship allows. The purpose of censorship is to suppress anything that could be construed as negative about the regime, i.e. allow only what is positive, i.e. propaganda. Hope that clears it up for you? > But I understand you. Actually, I sincerely doubt that. > CCP labels everything coming from USA as propaganda as well. I do see you and a lot of US people share a lot of common values of CCP, a bit ironically... Yeah, right. And for condemning Stalin, I must be Hitler; for condemning Hitler, I must be Stalin. For condemning both, I must be both Hitler and Stalin! Take that tired old propagandist trope and shove it somewhere, mr People's Democratic Justice.