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Benefit of the doubt, he's not talking about literally invention, but rather adoption. Most early internet users were definitely on Windows and Internet Explore

by tootie 5y ago

Benefit of the doubt, he's not talking about literally invention, but rather adoption. Most early internet users were definitely on Windows and Internet Explorer was the dominant browser for many years. Even that take glosses over them cheating Netscape out of their spot, but really IE was a cutting edge browser when it was at it's peak.

gjsman-1000 5y ago
And then Microsoft gave us the gift of Internet Explorer 6.
- laurentb 5y ago
  IE6 was released in 2001, 3 years before Firefox 1.0. At the time, it was indeed a gift and Netscape was already on its dying legs with Netscape 6, bloated beyond recognition
- Paianni 5y ago
  IE6 was actually a perfectly fine browser at launch, the trouble was that it stayed current for so long that getting IT infrastructure to abandon it took far longer than it should have. XP and Server 2003 had a similar predicament.
  - mcny 5y ago
    > IE6 was actually a perfectly fine browser at launch, the trouble was that it stayed current for so long that getting IT infrastructure to abandon it took far longer than it should have. XP and Server 2003 had a similar predicament. My worst experience with Internet Explorer didn't even have to exist. Why did Windows 98 do Windows Update with Internet Explorer? Was there a technical reason why Windows Update had to be coupled with an open web browser session? My memory isn't that good but from what I recall it was really painful over dial up (technically up to 48kbps but in practice, you'd be lucky to get half of that).
    - badsectoracula 5y ago
      > Was there a technical reason why Windows Update had to be coupled with an open web browser session Yes, it was so that Microsoft can claim that IE4 was an integral part of the OS and couldn't be removed.
- jjkaczor 5y ago
  For all the mistakes made with IE6, the modern web would not be possible without Microsoft's introduction of "XMLHTTPRequest".
imoverclocked 5y ago
I mean, AOL was a pretty big player for adoption of the internet and they had their own version of a walled garden. Before that, there were a lot of people using lynx on a text terminal in libraries/gopher clients/dialup to a local university. By the time Netscape/Internet Explorer were making it to the scene, they were competing for something already established and growing.

by tootie 5y ago

gjsman-1000 5y ago

And then Microsoft gave us the gift of Internet Explorer 6.

laurentb 5y ago
IE6 was released in 2001, 3 years before Firefox 1.0. At the time, it was indeed a gift and Netscape was already on its dying legs with Netscape 6, bloated beyond recognition
Paianni 5y ago
IE6 was actually a perfectly fine browser at launch, the trouble was that it stayed current for so long that getting IT infrastructure to abandon it took far longer than it should have. XP and Server 2003 had a similar predicament.
- mcny 5y ago
  > IE6 was actually a perfectly fine browser at launch, the trouble was that it stayed current for so long that getting IT infrastructure to abandon it took far longer than it should have. XP and Server 2003 had a similar predicament. My worst experience with Internet Explorer didn't even have to exist. Why did Windows 98 do Windows Update with Internet Explorer? Was there a technical reason why Windows Update had to be coupled with an open web browser session? My memory isn't that good but from what I recall it was really painful over dial up (technically up to 48kbps but in practice, you'd be lucky to get half of that).
  - badsectoracula 5y ago
    > Was there a technical reason why Windows Update had to be coupled with an open web browser session Yes, it was so that Microsoft can claim that IE4 was an integral part of the OS and couldn't be removed.
jjkaczor 5y ago
For all the mistakes made with IE6, the modern web would not be possible without Microsoft's introduction of "XMLHTTPRequest".

imoverclocked 5y ago

I mean, AOL was a pretty big player for adoption of the internet and they had their own version of a walled garden. Before that, there were a lot of people using lynx on a text terminal in libraries/gopher clients/dialup to a local university. By the time Netscape/Internet Explorer were making it to the scene, they were competing for something already established and growing.