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I value my time which is where Apple seems to win ie it eats the least of it. That trumps the absolute cost in my mind.

by hughrr 5y ago

ahartmetz 5y ago
If we're talking about phones, Android is very low maintenance as well. If we're talking about Real Computers, Linux is more rough around the edges, sure. But it has Freedom. And it's a fantastic system for software development.
- hughrr 5y ago
  I can’t speak for android now but when I used it 4 years ago I actually suffered irrecoverable data loss due to buggy SD card handling and was constantly bugged by it every two minutes (Motorola handset) for various updates and issues. It did not respect my attention however hard I tried to configure it to. So it went. I can’t trust it. Not only that with Google’s business model I can’t rationally invest in it. Oh and the handset was abandoned after 12 months. My backup iPhone 5s got an update on 14th June at 7 years old. As for real computers, yes. The Mac I have is a nice terminal for Linux on a server but Linux on the desktop is not rough round the edges: it’s a nightmare for daily use.
  - NorwegianDude 5y ago
    Linux on desktop is very far from a nightmare. Sure, if you don't know what you're doing and you mess around with things, things will break. If you use it as you would use Windows or Mac OS, then there are no more issues with Ubuntu from my experience. I actually prefer Ubuntu over the other two as the web developer experience is much better than Windows and Mac OS. It's nice to use native tools. It's nice to be able to trust profiling. The same is also true for the other two where you would have to use replacement software on Linux.
    - hughrr 5y ago
      I’ve been through this discussion a thousand times before. I bought an officially tested with Ubuntu T495 laptop and a kernel update broke it entirely due to bugs. X just craps itself and the whole thing hangs. I don’t have the time or inclination to deal with stuff I expect to work. I do most of my dev work in linux but using the Mac as a terminal.

I value my time which is where Apple seems to win ie it eats the least of it. That trumps the absolute cost in my mind.

by hughrr 5y ago

I value my time which is where Apple seems to win ie it eats the least of it. That trumps the absolute cost in my mind.

If we're talking about phones, Android is very low maintenance as well. If we're talking about Real Computers, Linux is more rough around the edges, sure. But it has Freedom. And it's a fantastic system for software development.

hughrr 5y ago
I can’t speak for android now but when I used it 4 years ago I actually suffered irrecoverable data loss due to buggy SD card handling and was constantly bugged by it every two minutes (Motorola handset) for various updates and issues. It did not respect my attention however hard I tried to configure it to. So it went. I can’t trust it. Not only that with Google’s business model I can’t rationally invest in it. Oh and the handset was abandoned after 12 months. My backup iPhone 5s got an update on 14th June at 7 years old. As for real computers, yes. The Mac I have is a nice terminal for Linux on a server but Linux on the desktop is not rough round the edges: it’s a nightmare for daily use.
- NorwegianDude 5y ago
  Linux on desktop is very far from a nightmare. Sure, if you don't know what you're doing and you mess around with things, things will break. If you use it as you would use Windows or Mac OS, then there are no more issues with Ubuntu from my experience. I actually prefer Ubuntu over the other two as the web developer experience is much better than Windows and Mac OS. It's nice to use native tools. It's nice to be able to trust profiling. The same is also true for the other two where you would have to use replacement software on Linux.
  - hughrr 5y ago
    I’ve been through this discussion a thousand times before. I bought an officially tested with Ubuntu T495 laptop and a kernel update broke it entirely due to bugs. X just craps itself and the whole thing hangs. I don’t have the time or inclination to deal with stuff I expect to work. I do most of my dev work in linux but using the Mac as a terminal.