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It's impossible to for Microsoft and Google to compete with Apple in the US. Every YouTube, TikTok, Hollywood, Instagram celebrity use AirPods/iPhones/Macbooks

It's impossible to for Microsoft and Google to compete with Apple in the US. Every YouTube, TikTok, Hollywood, Instagram celebrity use AirPods/iPhones/Macbooks which means Windows and Android will forever be associated with being a poor man's version of whatever Apple is offering. You might say Apple's only dominant market share is in the US (50%) but the reality is that the US dictates what's cool and what's not.

techrat 5y ago
Galaxy Fold. $2000 to 3000 phone. Runs Android. And you know Apple is going to do what they always do. Copy it. Funny how Apple keeps copying the 'poor man's ideas. Now, if you're only focused on what's cool and what isn't, of course Apple is going to be the only thing you see... because you're looking for it.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  Apple's philosophy is that being first is not being best. You can be 5th place, but if you do it "best," it won't matter. That doesn't mean they are necessarily copying either. We've had leaks that they've tried foldables for years.
- jakeva 5y ago
  Apple is never going to release a folding phone, it's way too gimmicky.
  - galkk 5y ago
    Some were saying the same about pencil.
    - detaro 5y ago
      wtf is gimmicky about a pen for a tablet?
      - techrat 5y ago
        Jobs was completely against them. He considered them to be a gimmick. Now the Apple Pencil is considered an important accessory to the iPad. https://qz.com/1575481/would-steve-jobs-like-the-ipad-today/ https://qz.com/1575481/would-steve-jobs-like-the-ipad-today/ >The first is that Steve Jobs unabashedly hated styluses. When introducing the first iPhone in 2007, the Apple founder said, “Who wants a stylus? You have to get ’em, put ’em away, you lose ’em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let’s not use a stylus.” https://money.cnn.com/2015/09/10/technology/apple-pencil-steve-jobs-stylus/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2015/09/10/technology/apple-pencil-ste...
vagrantJin 5y ago
Among silly comments on HN, this is sillyness of a 14 year old. Ya can't be serious. Hospitals, wall street banks and hedgefunds, almost all the big F500 corporations and people who actually do meaningful work for laboratories, engineering plants and refineries, and factories making microchips to cars to Aeroplanes are more than likely to be on Windows. You've been mislead which makes sense since Apple has the effect more on impressionable people. The world literally runs on Windows. The internet runs on Linux. Apple makes premium consumer devices.
- tpush 5y ago
  There are more devices running iOS than Windows in the US according to [0]. Add macOS' market share and Apple's the single manufacturer of the most popular OSs in the US, with quite a lead even. [0] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/united-states-of-america https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/united-states...
  - dQw4w9WgXcQ 5y ago
    I wonder if those figures include the 200M+ Xbox consoles that all run a Windows-based OS.
  - yoz-y 5y ago
    Everybody has a mobile phone, not everybody has a computer. Comparing iOS and windows market share is interesting, but only for the consumer market.
  - EMM_386 5y ago
    You just commented on someone saying ... > Hospitals, wall street banks and hedgefunds, almost all the big F500 corporations and people who actually do meaningful work for laboratories, engineering plants and refineries, and factories making microchips to cars to Aeroplanes are more than likely to be on Windows. By saying something about iOS. Engineering plants don't run iOS.
tored 5y ago
> the reality is that the US dictates what's cool and what's not. I wonder for how long that will stay true, give it a decade and I think that era will be over.
- cosmojg 5y ago
  I'm worried that it will take a war to make this happen.
esclerofilo 5y ago
Facebook could start fighting back against Apple by giving influencers with Android more visibility, or worsening React Native on iOS. I wonder how much of an effect it would have. Apple is already screwing over Facebook (look at the features in iOS 15), which is why they could consider doing this.

techrat 5y ago

Galaxy Fold. $2000 to 3000 phone. Runs Android. And you know Apple is going to do what they always do. Copy it. Funny how Apple keeps copying the 'poor man's ideas. Now, if you're only focused on what's cool and what isn't, of course Apple is going to be the only thing you see... because you're looking for it.

gjsman-1000 5y ago
Apple's philosophy is that being first is not being best. You can be 5th place, but if you do it "best," it won't matter. That doesn't mean they are necessarily copying either. We've had leaks that they've tried foldables for years.
jakeva 5y ago
Apple is never going to release a folding phone, it's way too gimmicky.
- galkk 5y ago
  Some were saying the same about pencil.
  - detaro 5y ago
    wtf is gimmicky about a pen for a tablet?
    - techrat 5y ago
      Jobs was completely against them. He considered them to be a gimmick. Now the Apple Pencil is considered an important accessory to the iPad. https://qz.com/1575481/would-steve-jobs-like-the-ipad-today/ https://qz.com/1575481/would-steve-jobs-like-the-ipad-today/ >The first is that Steve Jobs unabashedly hated styluses. When introducing the first iPhone in 2007, the Apple founder said, “Who wants a stylus? You have to get ’em, put ’em away, you lose ’em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let’s not use a stylus.” https://money.cnn.com/2015/09/10/technology/apple-pencil-steve-jobs-stylus/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2015/09/10/technology/apple-pencil-ste...

vagrantJin 5y ago

Among silly comments on HN, this is sillyness of a 14 year old. Ya can't be serious. Hospitals, wall street banks and hedgefunds, almost all the big F500 corporations and people who actually do meaningful work for laboratories, engineering plants and refineries, and factories making microchips to cars to Aeroplanes are more than likely to be on Windows. You've been mislead which makes sense since Apple has the effect more on impressionable people. The world literally runs on Windows. The internet runs on Linux. Apple makes premium consumer devices.

tpush 5y ago
There are more devices running iOS than Windows in the US according to [0]. Add macOS' market share and Apple's the single manufacturer of the most popular OSs in the US, with quite a lead even. [0] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/united-states-of-america https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/united-states...
- dQw4w9WgXcQ 5y ago
  I wonder if those figures include the 200M+ Xbox consoles that all run a Windows-based OS.
- yoz-y 5y ago
  Everybody has a mobile phone, not everybody has a computer. Comparing iOS and windows market share is interesting, but only for the consumer market.
- EMM_386 5y ago
  You just commented on someone saying ... > Hospitals, wall street banks and hedgefunds, almost all the big F500 corporations and people who actually do meaningful work for laboratories, engineering plants and refineries, and factories making microchips to cars to Aeroplanes are more than likely to be on Windows. By saying something about iOS. Engineering plants don't run iOS.

tored 5y ago

> the reality is that the US dictates what's cool and what's not. I wonder for how long that will stay true, give it a decade and I think that era will be over.

cosmojg 5y ago
I'm worried that it will take a war to make this happen.

esclerofilo 5y ago

Facebook could start fighting back against Apple by giving influencers with Android more visibility, or worsening React Native on iOS. I wonder how much of an effect it would have. Apple is already screwing over Facebook (look at the features in iOS 15), which is why they could consider doing this.