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Same as if a grad student wins the Prize: Credit will go to the tenured manager of the lab where he worked and the grad student might get their name on some re

Same as if a grad student wins the Prize: Credit will go to the tenured manager of the lab where he worked and the grad student might get their name on some related publication.

rjsw 5y ago
See Jocelyn Bell Burnell [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Bell_Burnell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Bell_Burnell
rdtwo 5y ago
Grad student wins, gets beaten with broom so he/she doesn’t let it get to their head. Lab head gets all the credit
uyt 5y ago
There are egregious cases in history (e.g., Rosalind Franklin) but nowadays most of modern research is conducted as a group so it's logistically hard to award it to anyone other than the principal investigators of the lab. It's a bit sad that the original purpose of the prize is lost but that just reflects that we're past the age of lone genius contributors making a difference. No one person really matters. You can replace that grad student or PI with another and the machine will still chug along.
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- distribot 5y ago
  That last part doesn't ring true. It's like saying a championship sports team would just chug along without any particular player or coach.
  - uyt 5y ago
    But you would agree that the sport won't just die if we lose any particular player or coach right? Likewise research is so competitive/redundant nowadays that there are always multiple labs vying for the same results. If we lose any particular lab we will be set back at best a few months. (For another example from history, despite the vast contributions by Newton, even if he didn't exist, we would still have discovered calculus at approximately the same time frame)
gaws 5y ago
A Nobel prize is a once-in-a-lifetime achievement. I'd be furious if all my work is credited to my lab head just because his/her name is first on the paper.

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Same as if a grad student wins the Prize: Credit will go to the tenured manager of the lab where he worked and the grad student might get their name on some re

by m0llusk 5y ago

Same as if a grad student wins the Prize: Credit will go to the tenured manager of the lab where he worked and the grad student might get their name on some related publication.

rjsw 5y ago
See Jocelyn Bell Burnell [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Bell_Burnell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Bell_Burnell
rdtwo 5y ago
Grad student wins, gets beaten with broom so he/she doesn’t let it get to their head. Lab head gets all the credit
uyt 5y ago
There are egregious cases in history (e.g., Rosalind Franklin) but nowadays most of modern research is conducted as a group so it's logistically hard to award it to anyone other than the principal investigators of the lab. It's a bit sad that the original purpose of the prize is lost but that just reflects that we're past the age of lone genius contributors making a difference. No one person really matters. You can replace that grad student or PI with another and the machine will still chug along.
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- distribot 5y ago
  That last part doesn't ring true. It's like saying a championship sports team would just chug along without any particular player or coach.
  - uyt 5y ago
    But you would agree that the sport won't just die if we lose any particular player or coach right? Likewise research is so competitive/redundant nowadays that there are always multiple labs vying for the same results. If we lose any particular lab we will be set back at best a few months. (For another example from history, despite the vast contributions by Newton, even if he didn't exist, we would still have discovered calculus at approximately the same time frame)
gaws 5y ago
A Nobel prize is a once-in-a-lifetime achievement. I'd be furious if all my work is credited to my lab head just because his/her name is first on the paper.