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Real AI — fine by me. Those things we call "AI" these days — nonsense. Award should probably go to the creators of machine-learning approaches which led to Nob

Real AI — fine by me. Those things we call "AI" these days — nonsense. Award should probably go to the creators of machine-learning approaches which led to Nobel-worthy advancement

jjcon 5y ago
> Real AI Agreed, also though the term is artificial general intelligence or strong ai. Despite what the 90s movies told us, artificial intelligence just refers to systems which exhibit intelligent behavior, not to human level general intelligence.
Kiro 5y ago
Back in the day a monster following you in a game was "great AI". Nowadays we have neural nets mimicking the brain and learning on its own but instead of celebrating such an amazing progress hackers love to minimize it. For me, what machine-learning is doing is better AI than I ever thought I would experience in my lifetime.
- notahacker 5y ago
  Back in the day computers that were basically electronic people that never made mistakes were "just around the corner". Now we're resurrecting those philosophical debates and literary tropes because ML processes can beat humans at Go and analysing protein folding. Just because an algorithm is extremely useful to science in conjunction with the right dataset doesn't mean it isn't silly to pretend it's any more of a person than a microscope or a pocket calculator.
  - danbruc 5y ago
    Artificial intelligence, even general artificial intelligence, does not have to be human in any way. Unless you specifically want to define general artificial intelligence to mean humanlike intelligence. And it seems more likely that we will eventually unterstand that there is no special sauce in humans than that we will one day find a hidden secret that, if incorporated into a computer, will suddenly make it a true artificial intelligence or artificial person. Humans are probably closer to calculators than humans like.
    - notahacker 5y ago
      An discussion on giving AI Nobel prizes seems to be quite explicitly treating it as humanlike. Regardless of what can and can't be accomplished with ML processes, I don't think the warm fuzzy feeling of satisfaction from Nobel recognition factors into their output

Real AI — fine by me. Those things we call "AI" these days — nonsense. Award should probably go to the creators of machine-learning approaches which led to Nobel-worthy advancement

jjcon 5y ago

> Real AI Agreed, also though the term is artificial general intelligence or strong ai. Despite what the 90s movies told us, artificial intelligence just refers to systems which exhibit intelligent behavior, not to human level general intelligence.

Kiro 5y ago

Back in the day a monster following you in a game was "great AI". Nowadays we have neural nets mimicking the brain and learning on its own but instead of celebrating such an amazing progress hackers love to minimize it. For me, what machine-learning is doing is better AI than I ever thought I would experience in my lifetime.

notahacker 5y ago
Back in the day computers that were basically electronic people that never made mistakes were "just around the corner". Now we're resurrecting those philosophical debates and literary tropes because ML processes can beat humans at Go and analysing protein folding. Just because an algorithm is extremely useful to science in conjunction with the right dataset doesn't mean it isn't silly to pretend it's any more of a person than a microscope or a pocket calculator.
- danbruc 5y ago
  Artificial intelligence, even general artificial intelligence, does not have to be human in any way. Unless you specifically want to define general artificial intelligence to mean humanlike intelligence. And it seems more likely that we will eventually unterstand that there is no special sauce in humans than that we will one day find a hidden secret that, if incorporated into a computer, will suddenly make it a true artificial intelligence or artificial person. Humans are probably closer to calculators than humans like.
  - notahacker 5y ago
    An discussion on giving AI Nobel prizes seems to be quite explicitly treating it as humanlike. Regardless of what can and can't be accomplished with ML processes, I don't think the warm fuzzy feeling of satisfaction from Nobel recognition factors into their output