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These guys are awesome. Why? Because they get it: Options for Paypal and credit card payments (you can choose one of the alternatives): * Send u

These guys are awesome. Why? Because they get it: Options for Paypal and credit card payments (you can choose one of the alternatives): * Send us a copy of an ID, issued by your Government, which clearly shows your name and picture. The file will be completely deleted after the verification process * Pass a video interview with our customer support representative Options for Bitcoin: * We don’t ask to verify Bitcoin payments

perryizgr8 5y ago
I don't get this. I would have thought it would be the other way around. Paypal and credit card companies do a lot of KYC and other checks on their users. Bitcoin does none. If you need to verify a user's identity for some reason, you need to do it more if they pay by Bitcoin!
- KirillPanov 5y ago
  You've got it all backwards. Bitcoin doesn't need identity to prevent fraudulent payments. It uses math for that. The legacy banking system has no real, complete solution to fraudulent payments. So instead they bodge on this identity-checking nonsense, which maybe sorta works sometimes, with very high overhead. Privacy is collateral damage here. KYC for cryptocurrencies is like horse-buggy manufacturers requiring a whip and manure-scooper in every automobile. The horse-buggy industry is very desperately trying to convince you that this requirement is for your own good. And that without it, the terrorists will win.
  - KptMarchewa 5y ago
    You have it all mistaken. It's for AML, not for fraud.
    - ectopod 5y ago
      If this business is concerned about AML, why do they accept anonymous bitcoin payments? They care about chargebacks, not AML.
      - KptMarchewa 5y ago
        I don't care about this business. I'm responding to the rant of poster above me.
- lmz 5y ago
  The point is not the KYC, the point is to eliminate chargebacks.
  - foobar33333 5y ago
    Since a lot of their customers will be on the grey side of legitimacy, I imagine credit card fraud would be common which can get their seller account shut down.
  - 0xbkt 5y ago
    Why not 3DS with pre-charge $1 with random description for the customer to later verify? Sorry but they're not getting my ID. Strikethrough.
    - jordansmith 5y ago
      Think that’s sort of the point. They don’t want your ID, they want you to use Bitcoin

perryizgr8 5y ago

I don't get this. I would have thought it would be the other way around. Paypal and credit card companies do a lot of KYC and other checks on their users. Bitcoin does none. If you need to verify a user's identity for some reason, you need to do it more if they pay by Bitcoin!

KirillPanov 5y ago
You've got it all backwards. Bitcoin doesn't need identity to prevent fraudulent payments. It uses math for that. The legacy banking system has no real, complete solution to fraudulent payments. So instead they bodge on this identity-checking nonsense, which maybe sorta works sometimes, with very high overhead. Privacy is collateral damage here. KYC for cryptocurrencies is like horse-buggy manufacturers requiring a whip and manure-scooper in every automobile. The horse-buggy industry is very desperately trying to convince you that this requirement is for your own good. And that without it, the terrorists will win.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago
  You have it all mistaken. It's for AML, not for fraud.
  - ectopod 5y ago
    If this business is concerned about AML, why do they accept anonymous bitcoin payments? They care about chargebacks, not AML.
    - KptMarchewa 5y ago
      I don't care about this business. I'm responding to the rant of poster above me.
lmz 5y ago
The point is not the KYC, the point is to eliminate chargebacks.
- foobar33333 5y ago
  Since a lot of their customers will be on the grey side of legitimacy, I imagine credit card fraud would be common which can get their seller account shut down.
- 0xbkt 5y ago
  Why not 3DS with pre-charge $1 with random description for the customer to later verify? Sorry but they're not getting my ID. Strikethrough.
  - jordansmith 5y ago
    Think that’s sort of the point. They don’t want your ID, they want you to use Bitcoin