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You are speculating. There's no reason to believe that. So far it only says "hate speech" and nothing about "power" or "white".

jaspax 5y ago
You're right, there's no reason to believe that. At least, not unless you've been paying any attention at all to the rhetoric and explicit ideological content of "anti-racism" over the past decade and you're able to locate this bill in that context.
- prohobo 5y ago
  There are still people who think the woke thing is just a fad and doesn't actually affect anyone.
  - iagovar 5y ago
    Well, but it does. People loses their job. Maybe you didn't but you know someone who did, or a public figure you like. Also, it affects personal relationships. It's amazing how my conservative friends unload their thoughts on me, because thy are afraid to speak frankly with other people.
    - prohobo 5y ago
      Right, it has psychological effects on anyone who it targets (directly or indirectly). There's a debilitating mental burden that gets put on you when you are constantly trying to defend yourself or others against assailants who don't adhere to any basis in reality or principles. Most likely it's a social problem; the pain of challenging your own community and being alienated. It's also commonly seen in people who have to deal with narcissistic abuse. Just as a historical anecdote, it was common for the resistance in the Soviet union to have mental health issues because of having to wrestle with all of the propaganda, insane behaviours, accusations and attacks. The Soviets took advantage of that by accusing anyone who had negative views of the government or culture of being schizophrenics and locking them in institutions.
      - iagovar 5y ago
        I didn't notice on any of them, but I notice the struggle of being constantly under attack, that's right. I mean, I do notice myself, being a kind of materialist and utilitarian social-democrat in country with a leftist social majority. Well, maybe a bit of depression for those who have a softer personality.
  - jhfyjvxx 5y ago
    If it doesn't affect anyone they shouldn't feel the need to defend it It's another motte and bailey

jaspax 5y ago

You're right, there's no reason to believe that. At least, not unless you've been paying any attention at all to the rhetoric and explicit ideological content of "anti-racism" over the past decade and you're able to locate this bill in that context.

prohobo 5y ago
There are still people who think the woke thing is just a fad and doesn't actually affect anyone.
- iagovar 5y ago
  Well, but it does. People loses their job. Maybe you didn't but you know someone who did, or a public figure you like. Also, it affects personal relationships. It's amazing how my conservative friends unload their thoughts on me, because thy are afraid to speak frankly with other people.
  - prohobo 5y ago
    Right, it has psychological effects on anyone who it targets (directly or indirectly). There's a debilitating mental burden that gets put on you when you are constantly trying to defend yourself or others against assailants who don't adhere to any basis in reality or principles. Most likely it's a social problem; the pain of challenging your own community and being alienated. It's also commonly seen in people who have to deal with narcissistic abuse. Just as a historical anecdote, it was common for the resistance in the Soviet union to have mental health issues because of having to wrestle with all of the propaganda, insane behaviours, accusations and attacks. The Soviets took advantage of that by accusing anyone who had negative views of the government or culture of being schizophrenics and locking them in institutions.
    - iagovar 5y ago
      I didn't notice on any of them, but I notice the struggle of being constantly under attack, that's right. I mean, I do notice myself, being a kind of materialist and utilitarian social-democrat in country with a leftist social majority. Well, maybe a bit of depression for those who have a softer personality.
- jhfyjvxx 5y ago
  If it doesn't affect anyone they shouldn't feel the need to defend it It's another motte and bailey