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What about the second half of that sentence? "...on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination", specifically. "I don't like you because you're Black/
by DanHulton 5y ago
What about the second half of that sentence? "...on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination", specifically.
"I don't like you because you're Black/gay/Jewish" is an entirely different thing from "I don't like you because you're rich". Specifically, one of these is a prohibited ground of discrimination.
- kevin_thibedeau 5y ago"Men are scum" is now hate speech.
- DanHulton 5y agoI don't think this is the win you think it is. That statement has always been problematic, and generally, even the people uttering it know it. Those that don't, who genuinely believe it, well, yeah, that's hate speech. That should be addressed. Many feminists have been working to address this exact issue with their messaging. Discussions around "toxic masculinity" being the issue, not men themselves, and "Not All Men, but Yes All Women" draw attention to the fact that _enough_ men are dangerous, and enough men allow it, that there's a good chance that any woman you meet has a "harassed by a man" story. Further, you and I are using the phrase "men are scum" without it being hate speech just fine, since we're using it to discuss an important social point. But using it to vilify an entire gender? Yeah, that's hate speech. You've hit the nail right on the head.
- iammisc 5y agoNo sorry it's not. I'm a traditional Catholic man. I'm as far as you can get from a feminist really. But yeah they have every right to say men are scum and mean it. How stupid can a country get? It might be sinful, it might be pride, but it should be legal.
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- sellyme 5y agoWell yeah, that's the exact kind of needlessly aggressive and divisive rhetoric this is meant to prevent.
- wollef 5y agoYes? "$GROUP are scum" is absolutely hate speech.