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They have only 110 deaths per 1M population, which is pretty good especially when taking into account that they started vaccination pretty late. They are better

They have only 110 deaths per 1M population, which is pretty good especially when taking into account that they started vaccination pretty late. They are better than at least 131 other countries. USA, by comparison, has 1,861 deaths per 1M population. They are one of the worst 20 countries. Their resistance about importing vaccines can be debated, and may not reflect the quality of their health care, being mostly a political decision.

servilio 5y ago
> They have only 110 deaths per 1M population Where are you getting this number from? Any numbers coming from the Cuban government have to be treated as unreliable, as it is common practice to restrict doctors from what can be reported, unless they want to lose their license.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  In this case your belief is fully unfalsifiable. Governments with the same governance structure as Cuba (Vietnam, China) have been achieving even better numbers, despite lifting all measures and being full of foreigners. Because of this I expect actual evidence the data is false.
- selcuka 5y ago
  That is possible, but we don't have actual proof and I personally don't expect a huge difference between the reality and published numbers as they responded to the pandemic pretty quickly and effectively from the beginning [1]: > Cuba’s reaction to the coronavirus threat was swift. A “prevention and control” plan, prepared in January 2020, included training medical staff, preparing medical and quarantine facilities, and informing the public (including tourism workers) about symptoms and precautions. So, when the first three reported cases were confirmed on March 11, arrangements were in place to trace and isolate contacts, mobilise medical students for nationwide door-to-door surveys to identify vulnerable people and check for symptoms, and roll out a testing programme. [1] https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-response-why-cuba-is-such-an-interesting-case-135749 https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-response-why-cuba-is...
stjohnswarts 5y ago
USA isn't a relatively isolated island nation and it doesn't have complete control over the populace and can only make recommendations to the public and do things like lockdowns. Cuba's government has complete control and people know not to go against the government in such matters or they will be severely punished.
- selcuka 5y ago
  The point is they did well and the rest is pure speculation. I don't believe all the countries that did better than the US are more isolated and/or have complete control over the populace.

servilio 5y ago

> They have only 110 deaths per 1M population Where are you getting this number from? Any numbers coming from the Cuban government have to be treated as unreliable, as it is common practice to restrict doctors from what can be reported, unless they want to lose their license.

sudosysgen 5y ago
In this case your belief is fully unfalsifiable. Governments with the same governance structure as Cuba (Vietnam, China) have been achieving even better numbers, despite lifting all measures and being full of foreigners. Because of this I expect actual evidence the data is false.
selcuka 5y ago
That is possible, but we don't have actual proof and I personally don't expect a huge difference between the reality and published numbers as they responded to the pandemic pretty quickly and effectively from the beginning [1]: > Cuba’s reaction to the coronavirus threat was swift. A “prevention and control” plan, prepared in January 2020, included training medical staff, preparing medical and quarantine facilities, and informing the public (including tourism workers) about symptoms and precautions. So, when the first three reported cases were confirmed on March 11, arrangements were in place to trace and isolate contacts, mobilise medical students for nationwide door-to-door surveys to identify vulnerable people and check for symptoms, and roll out a testing programme. [1] https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-response-why-cuba-is-such-an-interesting-case-135749 https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-response-why-cuba-is...

stjohnswarts 5y ago

USA isn't a relatively isolated island nation and it doesn't have complete control over the populace and can only make recommendations to the public and do things like lockdowns. Cuba's government has complete control and people know not to go against the government in such matters or they will be severely punished.

selcuka 5y ago
The point is they did well and the rest is pure speculation. I don't believe all the countries that did better than the US are more isolated and/or have complete control over the populace.