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UFOs display tech US doesn’t have and can’t defend against

8 points by evo_9 5y ago

danboarder 5y ago
Question: Why it considered a threat before it has made an attack of any kind? Maybe it's a situation where we respond based on behavior? If friendly, perhaps don't label as a threat.
- giantg2 5y ago
  Pretty much anything that is unknown is considered a potential national security threat. Even if there's some sort of alliance, you have to take an approach where you trust them but have a back up plan, at least until there's a longstanding relationship.
- themodelplumber 5y ago
  The disturbances to date seem about on the same security threat level as maybe protests or certain natural disasters...not too bad in other words. (Maybe until we get a leaked Pentagon video of the abduction of a flight deck crew, or an F-18 being crumpled up like a soda can or something) The "threat model" seems to come from a contingency planning mindset. Forward looking, subjective, but based on past experiences where: 1) Any technology "plowshares" humans can learn about can generally be turned into weapons, so to speak, so any new tech could be a security threat and 2) humans would fall behind other nations' research and watch their own nation or civilization crumble because they were basically ignorant and stubborn compared to their neighbors. And that would be a pretty awful security problem. Personally I see a lot that could be explained by less-intelligent animalistic behavior in these events, but even if THAT is the case, it may indicate that the physics we see may be compatible with our known physics models. And if THAT is the case...pretty big deal. Just too bad national security has to be the carrot on the stick.
- eyeball 5y ago
  military industrial complex sales pitch for more money
- mc32 5y ago
  It’s a defense mechanism. (Wild) Animals and People tend to treat unknowns as threats and deservedly so. “Oh, this cute and engorged tiger shark isn’t attacking me; it’s quite friendly.” All nations that grow complacent will have a rival that overtakes them. Why do we have to be no. 1? If number 1 were not important, number 2 would not be pursuing being no. 1.
- jfengel 5y ago
  There is a decent chance that it comes from a foreign (but still Terran) power. We are already in conflict with these countries. It's not currently in combat, but there is constant jockeying and saber-rattling. It's unlikely to have phasers or tractor beams, but it just might have some plain old missiles. Or at the very least, the ability to precisely track our forces and gather information on the ground. That's worrying, though perhaps not alarming. It's the kind of thing worth researching: who's doing it, why, how, and precisely what so that perhaps we can compensate for it. If it actually is aliens that can crush a plane like a tin can, yeah, we're boned. But it's far more likely that it's other human beings, which are far crabbier than aliens, who are probably rather curious rather than hostile.

8 points by evo_9 5y ago

Question: Why it considered a threat before it has made an attack of any kind? Maybe it's a situation where we respond based on behavior? If friendly, perhaps don't label as a threat.

giantg2 5y ago
Pretty much anything that is unknown is considered a potential national security threat. Even if there's some sort of alliance, you have to take an approach where you trust them but have a back up plan, at least until there's a longstanding relationship.
themodelplumber 5y ago
The disturbances to date seem about on the same security threat level as maybe protests or certain natural disasters...not too bad in other words. (Maybe until we get a leaked Pentagon video of the abduction of a flight deck crew, or an F-18 being crumpled up like a soda can or something) The "threat model" seems to come from a contingency planning mindset. Forward looking, subjective, but based on past experiences where: 1) Any technology "plowshares" humans can learn about can generally be turned into weapons, so to speak, so any new tech could be a security threat and 2) humans would fall behind other nations' research and watch their own nation or civilization crumble because they were basically ignorant and stubborn compared to their neighbors. And that would be a pretty awful security problem. Personally I see a lot that could be explained by less-intelligent animalistic behavior in these events, but even if THAT is the case, it may indicate that the physics we see may be compatible with our known physics models. And if THAT is the case...pretty big deal. Just too bad national security has to be the carrot on the stick.
eyeball 5y ago
military industrial complex sales pitch for more money
mc32 5y ago
It’s a defense mechanism. (Wild) Animals and People tend to treat unknowns as threats and deservedly so. “Oh, this cute and engorged tiger shark isn’t attacking me; it’s quite friendly.” All nations that grow complacent will have a rival that overtakes them. Why do we have to be no. 1? If number 1 were not important, number 2 would not be pursuing being no. 1.
jfengel 5y ago
There is a decent chance that it comes from a foreign (but still Terran) power. We are already in conflict with these countries. It's not currently in combat, but there is constant jockeying and saber-rattling. It's unlikely to have phasers or tractor beams, but it just might have some plain old missiles. Or at the very least, the ability to precisely track our forces and gather information on the ground. That's worrying, though perhaps not alarming. It's the kind of thing worth researching: who's doing it, why, how, and precisely what so that perhaps we can compensate for it. If it actually is aliens that can crush a plane like a tin can, yeah, we're boned. But it's far more likely that it's other human beings, which are far crabbier than aliens, who are probably rather curious rather than hostile.