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Does it need to be whole?

aledalgrande 5y ago
Does not need to, but the whole variety is usually highest quality because the producer cannot hide the defects. Think about tea or tomatoes: the more you grind it down, the more you can mix in lower quality tiers. One exception I know of is porcini mushrooms: the most expensive are whole halfs, because you can actually see there's no worms in it. Also for mushrooms dried is really good, but obviously the texture is a little bit different when you eat it.
- alliao 5y ago
  yes this. i used to be able to buy canned tomatoes that came out whole, nowadays it's ALL diced. I know their tricks but they won't even sell it hahah
patall 5y ago
I would actually argue no. Stuff you grow at home is never looking as good as from the store because worms, rain and so on. Strawberries or cherries that have been picked by birds, wasps or slugs are usually fully ripe. Although I agree, whole fruit make it harder to hide bad ones in there
- tharkun__ 5y ago
  Since I just finished making jam from it let me tell you a secret: bird netting exists. No wasps or slugs in them and mostly no worms. In this case, sour cherries. Sour cherries are great because almost no worms (only in the variety I have that has the highest sugar content and not many either). The bird netting really helps. Last year no crop, today about 7 pints of jam and I can probably get the same again in a few weeks when the rest ripe s. This is from 3 trees that are about 4 years old now. They're the University of Saskatchewan types (Romeo, Juliet, Crimson passion etc.). I would say at least 90% of the crop looks saleable. Of course they're sour cherries and they're much smaller than the sweet cherries everyone knows and buys at the store. Other than the bird netting these are completely hands off. No chemicals, completely organic. All they get is compost from all the leaves (the city trucks will not get mine ever!) and guinea pig poop (basically nicely processed grass/hay).
caturopath 5y ago
Generally the finer specimens go to the whole products.
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- opinion-is-bad 5y ago
  They are entirely different strains when it comes to tomato cultivation at industrial scale. A tomato that ends up in a sauce or frozen never had the option to make it to the store while whole.
  - caturopath 5y ago
    I was talking about e.g. whole tomatoes vs. crushed tomatoes vs. diced tomatoes vs. tomato sauce.
prawn 5y ago
I grew up swearing off frozen vegetables as a bad thing - saw ads on TV and assumed it was something poor (?!) and time-poor people would buy. We'd grow fresh or buy whole, but almost never had frozen vegetables. Then my brother went through an intensive athletic program that had a nutritionist - that guy put him onto frozen and he passed it on to me. Fresh, there is a risk you'll let it go to crap before using it, you're paying for bits you'll trim off, etc. Frozen, it's there for months as you need it, ready to go, and was snap frozen fresh. So, odds are, there's less waste and less effort. We still grow and buy as before, but I try to have some frozen staples around, especially for quick stir-fries, fried rice for the kids, etc.

Does not need to, but the whole variety is usually highest quality because the producer cannot hide the defects. Think about tea or tomatoes: the more you grind it down, the more you can mix in lower quality tiers. One exception I know of is porcini mushrooms: the most expensive are whole halfs, because you can actually see there's no worms in it. Also for mushrooms dried is really good, but obviously the texture is a little bit different when you eat it.

alliao 5y ago
yes this. i used to be able to buy canned tomatoes that came out whole, nowadays it's ALL diced. I know their tricks but they won't even sell it hahah

patall 5y ago

I would actually argue no. Stuff you grow at home is never looking as good as from the store because worms, rain and so on. Strawberries or cherries that have been picked by birds, wasps or slugs are usually fully ripe. Although I agree, whole fruit make it harder to hide bad ones in there

tharkun__ 5y ago
Since I just finished making jam from it let me tell you a secret: bird netting exists. No wasps or slugs in them and mostly no worms. In this case, sour cherries. Sour cherries are great because almost no worms (only in the variety I have that has the highest sugar content and not many either). The bird netting really helps. Last year no crop, today about 7 pints of jam and I can probably get the same again in a few weeks when the rest ripe s. This is from 3 trees that are about 4 years old now. They're the University of Saskatchewan types (Romeo, Juliet, Crimson passion etc.). I would say at least 90% of the crop looks saleable. Of course they're sour cherries and they're much smaller than the sweet cherries everyone knows and buys at the store. Other than the bird netting these are completely hands off. No chemicals, completely organic. All they get is compost from all the leaves (the city trucks will not get mine ever!) and guinea pig poop (basically nicely processed grass/hay).

caturopath 5y ago

Generally the finer specimens go to the whole products.

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opinion-is-bad 5y ago
They are entirely different strains when it comes to tomato cultivation at industrial scale. A tomato that ends up in a sauce or frozen never had the option to make it to the store while whole.
- caturopath 5y ago
  I was talking about e.g. whole tomatoes vs. crushed tomatoes vs. diced tomatoes vs. tomato sauce.

prawn 5y ago

I grew up swearing off frozen vegetables as a bad thing - saw ads on TV and assumed it was something poor (?!) and time-poor people would buy. We'd grow fresh or buy whole, but almost never had frozen vegetables. Then my brother went through an intensive athletic program that had a nutritionist - that guy put him onto frozen and he passed it on to me. Fresh, there is a risk you'll let it go to crap before using it, you're paying for bits you'll trim off, etc. Frozen, it's there for months as you need it, ready to go, and was snap frozen fresh. So, odds are, there's less waste and less effort. We still grow and buy as before, but I try to have some frozen staples around, especially for quick stir-fries, fried rice for the kids, etc.