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Israel became a state by UN mandate, not by "invasion". Palestinians were also offered a state by the same mandate. They (and surrounding Arab states) rejected
by vogon_laureate 5y ago
Israel became a state by UN mandate, not by "invasion". Palestinians were also offered a state by the same mandate. They (and surrounding Arab states) rejected it and five armies literally invaded.
Facts don't belong to anyone. They are just facts. You calling my refugee grandparents fleeing the Holocaust "invaders" is arguably ruder than me calling your fact-free nonsense, er nonsense. Cope.
- pokot0 5y agoFriend, you are obviously emotional about this and I understand. But: - "Israel became a state by UN mandate" : I believe that mandate was an invasion. I believe I was clear. That's my opinion. I am happy to discuss it and change my mind if convinced. You insulted me and gave me 0 food for thought. - "Facts don't belong to anyone": You were the one who said "get your facts right". You are incoherent in a matter of 2 messages. That said remember that facts are not easy to find, as it's very clear lately. So, while they don't belong to anyone, for a lot of things we will never have access to them and we have to rely on opinions. - "You calling my refugee grandparents fleeing the Holocaust "invaders"" : I didn't. And ofc this is macro political argument, not a personal matter. I already told you what I consider an invasion. The UN mandate. The Holocaust was a great tragedy and I believe the victims had to be taken care properly. I just think that the way it was done created decades of wars and suffering and have shown how inadequate of a solution that was. I am not gonna answer any more messages though. It's not really helping anyone and I think you are extremely emotional about this. This is not the kind of conversation I was looking forward or what I want to engage in. I wish you all the best! I mean it!