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Security fixes and support.

by slver 5y ago

EvilEy3 5y ago
Most users don't care about that.
- robocat 5y ago
  Users care: so much so that they pay money for antivirus. They just don't understand the consequences of some of their actions or inactions, because they are not security professionals.
Hamuko 5y ago
You still get 4 years with 10. The Intel 8th gneration was introduced in 2017. So people who bought a computer in 2016 can still push it to ~9 years of service life, which is pretty good for an average Windows computer if they manage to do it. I imagine your average Windows consumer will have replaced a computer once already in that span once all the installed crap has stalled the computer to inoperable speeds. This honestly doesn't really strike me as a major issue. Especially since smartphones have like less than three years of security fixes on average.
- andyjansson 5y ago
  >This honestly doesn't really strike me as a major issue. You're saying this from a position of privilege. There are a lot of people that don't enjoy the same financial security that you and I do that will be affected immensely by this. I know a few and this is not news in their favor.
  - Zevis 5y ago
    Working in PC repair, a majority of my customers can't just up and buy a new PC just because Microsoft arbitrarily decides that whatever they have isn't good enough, even though it has sufficient performance.
    - BuckRogers 5y ago
      And they don't have to. They can keep using the PC they have until 2025. After that, there's always Linux Mint.
- strenholme 5y ago
  New Thinkpads in 2017 (T470/X270/etc.) were still using 7th generation Intel chips, so it is for some users a forced update after eight years. That said, people have hacked the leaked OEM version of Windows 11 to install on to 2010 or 2011 vintage computers, so there’s a reasonable chance Microsoft will not make 2018 era computers a hard cutoff for Windows 11 installs. Even if they do, there will probably be workarounds around allowing it to be installed it on Kaby Lake and older CPUs; we know right now Windows 11 will install on an older computer without significant issue (with some hacking, depending on just how old the computer is). For the record, I find the three year lifecycle for Android phones very annoying. I may have my next phone be an iPhone (they can have 5-6 year support lifetimes, if I get a brand new model when it comes out) or hope the Fairphone becomes available in the US.

Security fixes and support.

by slver 5y ago

Security fixes and support.

EvilEy3 5y ago

Most users don't care about that.

robocat 5y ago
Users care: so much so that they pay money for antivirus. They just don't understand the consequences of some of their actions or inactions, because they are not security professionals.

Hamuko 5y ago

You still get 4 years with 10. The Intel 8th gneration was introduced in 2017. So people who bought a computer in 2016 can still push it to ~9 years of service life, which is pretty good for an average Windows computer if they manage to do it. I imagine your average Windows consumer will have replaced a computer once already in that span once all the installed crap has stalled the computer to inoperable speeds. This honestly doesn't really strike me as a major issue. Especially since smartphones have like less than three years of security fixes on average.

andyjansson 5y ago
>This honestly doesn't really strike me as a major issue. You're saying this from a position of privilege. There are a lot of people that don't enjoy the same financial security that you and I do that will be affected immensely by this. I know a few and this is not news in their favor.
- Zevis 5y ago
  Working in PC repair, a majority of my customers can't just up and buy a new PC just because Microsoft arbitrarily decides that whatever they have isn't good enough, even though it has sufficient performance.
  - BuckRogers 5y ago
    And they don't have to. They can keep using the PC they have until 2025. After that, there's always Linux Mint.
strenholme 5y ago
New Thinkpads in 2017 (T470/X270/etc.) were still using 7th generation Intel chips, so it is for some users a forced update after eight years. That said, people have hacked the leaked OEM version of Windows 11 to install on to 2010 or 2011 vintage computers, so there’s a reasonable chance Microsoft will not make 2018 era computers a hard cutoff for Windows 11 installs. Even if they do, there will probably be workarounds around allowing it to be installed it on Kaby Lake and older CPUs; we know right now Windows 11 will install on an older computer without significant issue (with some hacking, depending on just how old the computer is). For the record, I find the three year lifecycle for Android phones very annoying. I may have my next phone be an iPhone (they can have 5-6 year support lifetimes, if I get a brand new model when it comes out) or hope the Fairphone becomes available in the US.