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Without commenting on the veracity of your claims (which I don't really believe, and because they aren't sourced, it would require a ton of effort), your writin

Without commenting on the veracity of your claims (which I don't really believe, and because they aren't sourced, it would require a ton of effort), your writing style is very compelling.

seaorg 5y ago
Doctor Paul Saladino has been very public about his test results, including CAC score of zero, and I consider that a source. Same with doctor Shawn Baker. And I made reference to Meatrx which is indeed a source. It contains hundreds of video testimonies that will provide any discerning viewer with enough evidence to motivate a proper interventional study. This topic is blacklisted in academia and there aren’t any good studies on it. And if you investigate the mechanistic underpinnings of all of this yourself, crack open a biochemistry book, you will see very clearly that something is going on. We need proper interventional studies.
mathgladiator 5y ago
I can't comment on parent due to flag, I'm studying this for my wife and the relationship to autoimmune issues. It's not just ruminant, but ruminant meat eating appropriate food. Grass fed beef versus grain fed is fascinating. Furthermore, how we raise ruminants is important for the ecosystem. When I tried carnivore diet, I can attest that the benefits are real but so is the hungering addiction from processed foods. I'm currently detaching myself from sugar which is... hard. I can't wait for properly controlled studies on this subject. There is great anecdotal evidence https://benjamindavidsteele.wordpress.com/2020/01/10/multiple-sclerosis-and-carnivore-diet/ https://benjamindavidsteele.wordpress.com/2020/01/10/multipl... which warrants proper studies.
- seaorg 5y ago
  I don’t see a flag… people flag my comments because they are offended by eating meat. It’s fucking unbelievable. Especially if I’m right and it’s an important medical advancement. Yes, grass fed is necessary because of the omega 3 to 6 ratio. This is even more important if you are targeting autoimmune. And don’t sleep on the organs, I have found that those are important to immune-tangential things as well. Another note: you don’t get dehydrated because of ketosis and glycolysis. You get dehydrated because you stop making insulin, insulin tells your body to hold on to water. The only other thing that does that is sodium. Not potassium, sodium. On this diet you are replacing insulin with sodium. Make sure to have very high fat and at least 5 grams of sodium chloride per day.
  - monetus 5y ago
    The advice you are giving is interesting but irresponsible considering how different peoples' digestive systems are. I would downvote your original comment for that and for being off topic, but I view the downvote as a way of organizing comments. Again, this is interesting, but you are pitching a foot-gun to people.
    - seaorg 5y ago
      It isn’t irresponsible. Nobody is going to hurt themselves with a carnivore diet. I have tested it on myself so how could I be irresponsible for getting the word out about something I have done to my own body?
      - monetus 5y ago
        Thanks for testing it first. Using an analogy, your gut may be an apple and while some other people have oranges. My hunch is that you could push that analogy further with something more hyperbolic - the gut is fascinating.
    - rpmisms 5y ago
      > The advice you are giving is interesting but irresponsible considering how different peoples' digestive systems are This is fair, but you have to admit the same statement applies to evangelical vegans.
      - monetus 5y ago
        Definitely. Osteoporosis is no joke. I just didn't see any of those comments. And gah, no one likes hearing someone yell murderer at a dude eating a sandwhich. It just isn't nice. The animal is already dead, let it become sustenance. But anyways, take your gut health seriously. It affects your personality, like some other commenters have mentioned.
  - mponw 5y ago
    Grass fed is not necessary. Please check out "Sacred Cow" (https://www.sacredcow.info/book https://www.sacredcow.info/book) for the latest research. I (and many others) agree with your recommendation on sodium.
alisonkisk 5y ago
Do you purchase a lot of products you see advertised? GP's comment reads as a cheesy infomercial sales pitch, full of confidently stated BS.
- seaorg 5y ago
  The incredible thing is that there is no way for me to not make it seem like a scam. I try. It’s not a scam. Just eat a cow.
seaorg 5y ago
Hey carbo. I’m trying to make progress in biochemistry and pathology in a timely manner so that I have more to offer in these threads. And sometime soon I’m going to have references to mechanistic justifications. It’s just a lot for one guy. Can you imagine if you were convinced that you had the formula for snake oil and then everybody dismissed you for promoting snake oil? It’s like a bad dream.

Without commenting on the veracity of your claims (which I don't really believe, and because they aren't sourced, it would require a ton of effort), your writing style is very compelling.

seaorg 5y ago

Doctor Paul Saladino has been very public about his test results, including CAC score of zero, and I consider that a source. Same with doctor Shawn Baker. And I made reference to Meatrx which is indeed a source. It contains hundreds of video testimonies that will provide any discerning viewer with enough evidence to motivate a proper interventional study. This topic is blacklisted in academia and there aren’t any good studies on it. And if you investigate the mechanistic underpinnings of all of this yourself, crack open a biochemistry book, you will see very clearly that something is going on. We need proper interventional studies.

mathgladiator 5y ago

I can't comment on parent due to flag, I'm studying this for my wife and the relationship to autoimmune issues. It's not just ruminant, but ruminant meat eating appropriate food. Grass fed beef versus grain fed is fascinating. Furthermore, how we raise ruminants is important for the ecosystem. When I tried carnivore diet, I can attest that the benefits are real but so is the hungering addiction from processed foods. I'm currently detaching myself from sugar which is... hard. I can't wait for properly controlled studies on this subject. There is great anecdotal evidence https://benjamindavidsteele.wordpress.com/2020/01/10/multiple-sclerosis-and-carnivore-diet/ https://benjamindavidsteele.wordpress.com/2020/01/10/multipl... which warrants proper studies.

seaorg 5y ago
I don’t see a flag… people flag my comments because they are offended by eating meat. It’s fucking unbelievable. Especially if I’m right and it’s an important medical advancement. Yes, grass fed is necessary because of the omega 3 to 6 ratio. This is even more important if you are targeting autoimmune. And don’t sleep on the organs, I have found that those are important to immune-tangential things as well. Another note: you don’t get dehydrated because of ketosis and glycolysis. You get dehydrated because you stop making insulin, insulin tells your body to hold on to water. The only other thing that does that is sodium. Not potassium, sodium. On this diet you are replacing insulin with sodium. Make sure to have very high fat and at least 5 grams of sodium chloride per day.
- monetus 5y ago
  The advice you are giving is interesting but irresponsible considering how different peoples' digestive systems are. I would downvote your original comment for that and for being off topic, but I view the downvote as a way of organizing comments. Again, this is interesting, but you are pitching a foot-gun to people.
  - seaorg 5y ago
    It isn’t irresponsible. Nobody is going to hurt themselves with a carnivore diet. I have tested it on myself so how could I be irresponsible for getting the word out about something I have done to my own body?
    - monetus 5y ago
      Thanks for testing it first. Using an analogy, your gut may be an apple and while some other people have oranges. My hunch is that you could push that analogy further with something more hyperbolic - the gut is fascinating.
  - rpmisms 5y ago
    > The advice you are giving is interesting but irresponsible considering how different peoples' digestive systems are This is fair, but you have to admit the same statement applies to evangelical vegans.
    - monetus 5y ago
      Definitely. Osteoporosis is no joke. I just didn't see any of those comments. And gah, no one likes hearing someone yell murderer at a dude eating a sandwhich. It just isn't nice. The animal is already dead, let it become sustenance. But anyways, take your gut health seriously. It affects your personality, like some other commenters have mentioned.
- mponw 5y ago
  Grass fed is not necessary. Please check out "Sacred Cow" (https://www.sacredcow.info/book https://www.sacredcow.info/book) for the latest research. I (and many others) agree with your recommendation on sodium.

alisonkisk 5y ago

Do you purchase a lot of products you see advertised? GP's comment reads as a cheesy infomercial sales pitch, full of confidently stated BS.

seaorg 5y ago
The incredible thing is that there is no way for me to not make it seem like a scam. I try. It’s not a scam. Just eat a cow.

seaorg 5y ago

Hey carbo. I’m trying to make progress in biochemistry and pathology in a timely manner so that I have more to offer in these threads. And sometime soon I’m going to have references to mechanistic justifications. It’s just a lot for one guy. Can you imagine if you were convinced that you had the formula for snake oil and then everybody dismissed you for promoting snake oil? It’s like a bad dream.