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That seems to have less to do with what Despegar actually wrote - which is the focus of your criticism - and more to do with the increasingly conspiratorial "co

That seems to have less to do with what Despegar actually wrote - which is the focus of your criticism - and more to do with the increasingly conspiratorial "conservative" (i.e. memetic-right) portion of its audience HN's moderation has tolerated over the years. (The shift is not specific to HN, but different moderation policies could have provided better outcomes, and have in other fora.)

dang 5y ago
Everyone thinks the problem is caused by the people they disagree with. After dealing with literally hundreds of thousands of HN comments I can tell you that experience has taught me entirely otherwise. This goes along with the view that the forum would be a peaceful and productive place if only those people (the ones I disagree with) were moderated and banned, and therefore it is the moderators' fault when flamewars happen on HN. Much as I'm deeply interested in improving as a moderator, I don't think this view is realistic. In fact the solution is in the opposite direction: less blaming of the others, more effort to see one's own contributions more clearly. Needless to say this applies irrespective of political or ideological or geographical identification. (And yes, I need to do more of this too - for example it's clear that I could have handled this particular case much better. I was hasty and (ironically?) a little inflamed myself, not because of anything to do with Cuba or vaccines but because I didn't want to spend a second afternoon in a row dealing with a really nasty political flamewar. As a result I created a meta version of the same thing. Such lessons are expensive, which is fortunate.) p.s. I see that your replies are getting rate-limited. That doesn't seem fair, so I'll turn that off for now. In return I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from this sort of destructive comment in the future: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26848534 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26848534. That's why we rate limit accounts. Actually you've done so much of that that we could easily have banned you and a rate limit was a mild response; but I don't want to throttle anyone from responding to me in a discussion about moderation.
- morelisp 5y ago
  > we could easily have banned you "oh no" (You're not really engaging the points raised and I find the low-key threat hilarious, so no, I won't be responding further.)

dang 5y ago

Everyone thinks the problem is caused by the people they disagree with. After dealing with literally hundreds of thousands of HN comments I can tell you that experience has taught me entirely otherwise. This goes along with the view that the forum would be a peaceful and productive place if only those people (the ones I disagree with) were moderated and banned, and therefore it is the moderators' fault when flamewars happen on HN. Much as I'm deeply interested in improving as a moderator, I don't think this view is realistic. In fact the solution is in the opposite direction: less blaming of the others, more effort to see one's own contributions more clearly. Needless to say this applies irrespective of political or ideological or geographical identification. (And yes, I need to do more of this too - for example it's clear that I could have handled this particular case much better. I was hasty and (ironically?) a little inflamed myself, not because of anything to do with Cuba or vaccines but because I didn't want to spend a second afternoon in a row dealing with a really nasty political flamewar. As a result I created a meta version of the same thing. Such lessons are expensive, which is fortunate.) p.s. I see that your replies are getting rate-limited. That doesn't seem fair, so I'll turn that off for now. In return I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from this sort of destructive comment in the future: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26848534 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26848534. That's why we rate limit accounts. Actually you've done so much of that that we could easily have banned you and a rate limit was a mild response; but I don't want to throttle anyone from responding to me in a discussion about moderation.

morelisp 5y ago
> we could easily have banned you "oh no" (You're not really engaging the points raised and I find the low-key threat hilarious, so no, I won't be responding further.)