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Even if I were to be completely skeptical and/or in denial about Aliens existence, on the contrary, no one can say there isn't any evidence. Apart from being ma

Even if I were to be completely skeptical and/or in denial about Aliens existence, on the contrary, no one can say there isn't any evidence. Apart from being mathematically completely unlikely we're alone in the Universe, if you go and read dozens of reports and accounts about alien encounters, most of them match with one another.

gus_massa 5y ago
> Apart from being mathematically completely unlikely we're alone in the Universe, I agree that the is probably life in other star systems. The difficult part to believe is that they made an interstellar trip to here. Anyway, pics or it didn't happen. But good pics, not bad pics at the border of the resolution where objects are difficult to identify. > if you go and read dozens of reports and accounts about alien encounters, most of them match with one another. Wikipedia has a list of like 9 classes of aliens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alleged_extraterrestrial_beings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alleged_extraterrestri... and subclases that cover all the range of the human imagination. The reports are not consistent at all.
- rafaelvasco 5y ago
  That may be the case with them. But there's thousands of reports and accounts. If you read enough of them you'll see the consistency. Of course there's discrepancies, but the base elements are consistent.
  - mr_toad 5y ago
    There’s consistency in reports of vampires and dragons too, and for the same reasons.
    - gus_massa 5y ago
      I agree, but reports of vampires and dragons are very old and too unrealistic to most people today. I prefer witches, "we" were burning witches like 400 years ago, but the idea is vivid enough today. At that time, many people believed witches were real and the different accusations and account consistent.
goatlover 5y ago
> Apart from being mathematically completely unlikely we're alone in the Universe That's a false assumption, since we don't know the probability of our existence. If the probability is low enough, then it's not "completely unlikely". Particularly if you limit it to our galaxy, since there's little reason to suppose aliens in another galaxy would know of us, let alone make a trip millions of light years. > if you go and read dozens of reports and accounts about alien encounters, most of them match with one another. You can say the same thing for similar religious experiences and various other paranormal phenomena. But what's more likely, that human psychology combined with Earth-based phenomena is the answer, or that aliens travelled light years to mess with us?
- akimball 5y ago
  Quidquid cognoscitur cogniscitur per modem cognoscenti. But mass witness events with physical traces are quite another matter, epistemologically
- rafaelvasco 5y ago
  Most people fail to realize their purpose. They want to give, not to take away. They want to be of service to us. Most of them anyway. Some of them only want to learn of our ways since we're so different. And a minority of them want to study our physiology for their own gains.
spfzero 5y ago
I think it's unlikely that Earth is the only planet supporting life. But for a planet to support intelligent life capable of interstellar travel carrying vehicles capable of flying in our atmosphere, and have those aliens spend the huge amount of time and money to travel over here... They'd have to after something far more valuable that what they seem to be interested in.
- twoozen 5y ago
  This is the key point. Most people fail to understand the truly impossible scale of the challenge to travel between the stars. Why would the visitors then make themselves impossible to see or find? The usual response to this is they’ll have some sort of magical way of interstellar travel we don’t understand that makes it not so hard. Meh. Doesn’t ring true. I’ll believe aliens are here when a starship hauls in and parks. And I’ll be very, very concerned at that point about exactly what it is they want.
  - rafaelvasco 5y ago
    The thing is, we're carbon based lifeforms. They're not. Our bodies are on our visible spectrum. Theirs may not be. They don't hide themselves. We just mostly can't see them with our physical eyes, and with our tools.
- rafaelvasco 5y ago
  From what I understand of their motives after reading so much about it from hypnosis sessions and encounter accounts: They're not here to harvest resources, or to take anything from us. At least most of them aren't. They're here to be of Service. They're not like humanity in general, always taking and taking. They only want to Give. Must people don't understand the state of mind in which you want to give more than take. To be of Service to those in need, is their purpose.

gus_massa 5y ago

> Apart from being mathematically completely unlikely we're alone in the Universe, I agree that the is probably life in other star systems. The difficult part to believe is that they made an interstellar trip to here. Anyway, pics or it didn't happen. But good pics, not bad pics at the border of the resolution where objects are difficult to identify. > if you go and read dozens of reports and accounts about alien encounters, most of them match with one another. Wikipedia has a list of like 9 classes of aliens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alleged_extraterrestrial_beings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alleged_extraterrestri... and subclases that cover all the range of the human imagination. The reports are not consistent at all.

rafaelvasco 5y ago
That may be the case with them. But there's thousands of reports and accounts. If you read enough of them you'll see the consistency. Of course there's discrepancies, but the base elements are consistent.
- mr_toad 5y ago
  There’s consistency in reports of vampires and dragons too, and for the same reasons.
  - gus_massa 5y ago
    I agree, but reports of vampires and dragons are very old and too unrealistic to most people today. I prefer witches, "we" were burning witches like 400 years ago, but the idea is vivid enough today. At that time, many people believed witches were real and the different accusations and account consistent.

goatlover 5y ago

> Apart from being mathematically completely unlikely we're alone in the Universe That's a false assumption, since we don't know the probability of our existence. If the probability is low enough, then it's not "completely unlikely". Particularly if you limit it to our galaxy, since there's little reason to suppose aliens in another galaxy would know of us, let alone make a trip millions of light years. > if you go and read dozens of reports and accounts about alien encounters, most of them match with one another. You can say the same thing for similar religious experiences and various other paranormal phenomena. But what's more likely, that human psychology combined with Earth-based phenomena is the answer, or that aliens travelled light years to mess with us?

akimball 5y ago
Quidquid cognoscitur cogniscitur per modem cognoscenti. But mass witness events with physical traces are quite another matter, epistemologically
rafaelvasco 5y ago
Most people fail to realize their purpose. They want to give, not to take away. They want to be of service to us. Most of them anyway. Some of them only want to learn of our ways since we're so different. And a minority of them want to study our physiology for their own gains.

spfzero 5y ago

I think it's unlikely that Earth is the only planet supporting life. But for a planet to support intelligent life capable of interstellar travel carrying vehicles capable of flying in our atmosphere, and have those aliens spend the huge amount of time and money to travel over here... They'd have to after something far more valuable that what they seem to be interested in.

twoozen 5y ago
This is the key point. Most people fail to understand the truly impossible scale of the challenge to travel between the stars. Why would the visitors then make themselves impossible to see or find? The usual response to this is they’ll have some sort of magical way of interstellar travel we don’t understand that makes it not so hard. Meh. Doesn’t ring true. I’ll believe aliens are here when a starship hauls in and parks. And I’ll be very, very concerned at that point about exactly what it is they want.
- rafaelvasco 5y ago
  The thing is, we're carbon based lifeforms. They're not. Our bodies are on our visible spectrum. Theirs may not be. They don't hide themselves. We just mostly can't see them with our physical eyes, and with our tools.
rafaelvasco 5y ago
From what I understand of their motives after reading so much about it from hypnosis sessions and encounter accounts: They're not here to harvest resources, or to take anything from us. At least most of them aren't. They're here to be of Service. They're not like humanity in general, always taking and taking. They only want to Give. Must people don't understand the state of mind in which you want to give more than take. To be of Service to those in need, is their purpose.