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El Che Guevara made free medical education rampant and commonplace. When there was a breakout of Ebola some years back, Cuba was there, FIRST, front and center.
by GuerraEarth 5y ago
El Che Guevara made free medical education rampant and commonplace. When there was a breakout of Ebola some years back, Cuba was there, FIRST, front and center. Rival that, anybody? No surprise here that their vax is superlative. ALSO, when nobody would allow disease-stricken cruise ships to dock for medical help,at the initiation of Covid-19,Cuba took them. That is how Cubans contracted Covid. Beautiful, good, excellent, time-capsule Cuba.
- bufferoverflow 5y agoChe Guevara also killed innocent political rivals by a firing squad, and put gay people in labor camps. What about their health?
- celticninja 5y agoWhataboutism is rarely a good response to a comment, and almost never improves the conversation.
- cbnotfromthere 5y agoThere was no conversation in the first place. Just a bunch of absurd propaganda for a horror regime.
- vogon_laureate 5y agoIt’s a very appropriate response to a hagiographic description of a man who was directly responsible for the death and suffering of innocents. That’s not “whataboutism”. Whataboutism would be if the commenter were to point out that eg. Bill Gates is also really pro-healthcare and used his capitalist-derived billions to improve the lives of countless millions more people than the aforementioned homophobic communist tyrant.
- celticninja 5y agoI disagree.
- vogon_laureate 5y agoSuch a truly enriching riposte. It will take me eons to unpack it.
- celticninja 5y agoI didn't see the value in an argument.
- dang 5y agoPlease don't post unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- pinkviper 5y agoWe should have the same cynicism towards american leaders. Barak Obama is a mass murdered (far worse than Che). Bush killed more than a million iraqis (far worse than Che). Clinton bombed a pharma factory killing millions (far worse than Che). So if you want to do whataboutism start with the US first, the single biggest perpetrator of violence in the world.
- dang 5y agoPlease keep canned arguments like "whataboutism" off HN. It's a form of name-calling in the sense that the site guidelines use that term, and also a shallow dismissal. It's legit to point out inconsistencies and/or comparables in what someone else is saying (I'm not saying the GP did that—I'm just speaking generally). If you feel that something isn't really an inconsistency or isn't really comparable, you can always make an argument for why, but trying to shoot down the entire category of discussion with a label is not an argument. In fact, in this case the label itself is a fallacy. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20whataboutism&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- bufferoverflow 5y agoWe're literally discussing the same guy. If you have some person who helps older ladies cross the street, but then murders people at night, he is not a good person. You're judged by the combination of your actions, not for the cherry picked good ones.
- dang 5y agoPlease don't take HN threads further into flamewar. That's exactly the wrong direction for the kind of discussion we want here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html