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> a local store was insisting on wiping down the entire checkout conveyor with alcohol between every single customer until very recently, when we’ve know for a

by avian 5y ago

> a local store was insisting on wiping down the entire checkout conveyor with alcohol between every single customer until very recently, when we’ve know for a long time that you won’t get COVID from that. As someone from a country where running orders are still to disinfect often-touched surfaces (switches, door handles, office desks, etc.) I was surprised by this. I went to check what CDC from US recommends. It turns out it's pretty much the same: > Clean high touch surfaces daily. This includes tables, doorknobs, light switches, countertops, handles, desks, phones, keyboards, toilets, faucets, and sinks. (from https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/prevention.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-si...) So maybe wiping down the belt between every customer is a bit excessive, but it seems my sources don't agree with the "you don't get COVID from that" part.

unpolloloco 5y ago
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00251-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00251-4 Cleaning for an airborne illness is just theater. Upgrading air handlers, increasing airflow, and spacing people further apart matter. Cleaning stuff randomly just makes people feel better (but can make good business sense because of this!)
- clairity 5y ago
  yes, cleaning surfaces regularly (but not excessively) is good for a variety of reasons, but not for covid. the airflow concern is also overblown though. you really just need modest distancing indoors (or masks, absent modest distancing). no need for fancy airflow handling. covid isn't a robust virus that, as it's tiny water-bubble craft rapidly evaporates, quickly falls apart outside the body (similar to why surfaces aren't a concern).
- sharken 5y ago
  Yes it can make good business sense, but for those who know it's just theatre it certainly won't work. But it's really hard to stop it when the mantra is "Better safe than sorry". As vaccines grow in numbers and we have solid information like the one linked here, i have faith that we can return to doing things we know work.
djrogers 5y ago
> Clean high touch surfaces daily. A checkout belt isn't even close to a 'high-touch' surface - I don't think I've ever touched one, and neither do the checkers. And the difference between 'daily' and 4-500x daily is dramatic.

by avian 5y ago

unpolloloco 5y ago

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00251-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00251-4 Cleaning for an airborne illness is just theater. Upgrading air handlers, increasing airflow, and spacing people further apart matter. Cleaning stuff randomly just makes people feel better (but can make good business sense because of this!)

clairity 5y ago
yes, cleaning surfaces regularly (but not excessively) is good for a variety of reasons, but not for covid. the airflow concern is also overblown though. you really just need modest distancing indoors (or masks, absent modest distancing). no need for fancy airflow handling. covid isn't a robust virus that, as it's tiny water-bubble craft rapidly evaporates, quickly falls apart outside the body (similar to why surfaces aren't a concern).
sharken 5y ago
Yes it can make good business sense, but for those who know it's just theatre it certainly won't work. But it's really hard to stop it when the mantra is "Better safe than sorry". As vaccines grow in numbers and we have solid information like the one linked here, i have faith that we can return to doing things we know work.

djrogers 5y ago

> Clean high touch surfaces daily. A checkout belt isn't even close to a 'high-touch' surface - I don't think I've ever touched one, and neither do the checkers. And the difference between 'daily' and 4-500x daily is dramatic.