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Good sense applied to Covid. Which other countries governments are sensible (some will say bold) enough going to follow? The notion of zero Covid is an absurd

Good sense applied to Covid. Which other countries governments are sensible (some will say bold) enough going to follow? The notion of zero Covid is an absurdity and it has always been. No one ever spoke of zero influenza, so how did zero Covid become a thing?

bsaul 5y ago
Something extremely weird happened in 2020 with regard to how that pandemic was handled wordlwide. Time will tell if it was justified, incompetence, or hysteria.
- version_five 5y ago
  Personally, I think covid is similar to the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand: the event precipitated something that was basically going to happen anyway. Covid has become an excuse, political tool, and ideological rallying point for sentiments that have been building for a long time. The powder keg was there, it just needed a match. Thus the "something extremely weird" - it's been much different than just an epidemic occurring in a vacuum.
throwaway4good 5y ago
The original SARS was contained and brought to zero. Remember the beginning of the pandemic, a lot of countries thought that they could handle this in the same manner as hard flu season. Essentially "taking it on the chin" as Boris Johnson put it. Now with vaccines, there is a possibility of returning to normalcy without eradicating the virus. Interestingly China has implemented zero-covid, yet is now undergoing a massive vaccination campaign, and my guess they will change their policy at the end of it.
- vfclists 5y ago
  > The original SARS was contained and brought to zero That is because it caused severe symptoms which required hospitalization within a short time and thus could be quickly contained whereas with Covid symptoms are milder if any at all, and can be spread by both symptomatic and symptomatic infected.is
thebooktocome 5y ago
How many countries have infection rates as low as Singapore, and vaccination rates as high?
underwater 5y ago
Australia and New Zealand have had extended periods of zero COVID, which has allowed day-to-day life to be largely unaffected by the pandemic. The long term strategy, of course, needs to be vaccination and learning to live with COVID. But, saying elimination is absurd is incorrect.
- mulvya 5y ago
  Elimination would mean permanent zero COVID, not 'extended periods'. They have been able to have 'extended periods' due to tight border control but that's not 100% effective hence the current lockdowns across Australia triggered by only a handful of cases. When the threshold is that low, there's no predictability hence no promise of stability. That is what makes elimination absurd.

bsaul 5y ago

Something extremely weird happened in 2020 with regard to how that pandemic was handled wordlwide. Time will tell if it was justified, incompetence, or hysteria.

version_five 5y ago
Personally, I think covid is similar to the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand: the event precipitated something that was basically going to happen anyway. Covid has become an excuse, political tool, and ideological rallying point for sentiments that have been building for a long time. The powder keg was there, it just needed a match. Thus the "something extremely weird" - it's been much different than just an epidemic occurring in a vacuum.

throwaway4good 5y ago

The original SARS was contained and brought to zero. Remember the beginning of the pandemic, a lot of countries thought that they could handle this in the same manner as hard flu season. Essentially "taking it on the chin" as Boris Johnson put it. Now with vaccines, there is a possibility of returning to normalcy without eradicating the virus. Interestingly China has implemented zero-covid, yet is now undergoing a massive vaccination campaign, and my guess they will change their policy at the end of it.

vfclists 5y ago
> The original SARS was contained and brought to zero That is because it caused severe symptoms which required hospitalization within a short time and thus could be quickly contained whereas with Covid symptoms are milder if any at all, and can be spread by both symptomatic and symptomatic infected.is

thebooktocome 5y ago

How many countries have infection rates as low as Singapore, and vaccination rates as high?

underwater 5y ago

Australia and New Zealand have had extended periods of zero COVID, which has allowed day-to-day life to be largely unaffected by the pandemic. The long term strategy, of course, needs to be vaccination and learning to live with COVID. But, saying elimination is absurd is incorrect.

mulvya 5y ago
Elimination would mean permanent zero COVID, not 'extended periods'. They have been able to have 'extended periods' due to tight border control but that's not 100% effective hence the current lockdowns across Australia triggered by only a handful of cases. When the threshold is that low, there's no predictability hence no promise of stability. That is what makes elimination absurd.