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I know so very little of systemd as it doesn't touch anything I do. I can pattern match that https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/ https://blog.d
by eesmith 5y ago
I know so very little of systemd as it doesn't touch anything I do.
I can pattern match that https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/ https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/ - "Structural and semantic deficiencies in the systemd architecture for real-world service management, a technical treatise" from six years ago (Discussion at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10370348 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10370348 ) might be relevant.
Are those points reasonable? Dunno. If so, have they been addressed? No clue.
- zozbot234 5y agohttps://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2020/05/02/0/ https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2020/05/02/0/ is a 2020 post from the same blog, pointing out that these issues basically remain unaddressed. But again, this is not just some "anti-systemd" talking point; the pro-systemd side also acknowledges this! They just think sysv-init was even worse.
- zxzax 5y agoI honestly would like to see a better service manager than systemd, but just my opinion from following development of these things: a huge reason why it can't happen comes from underlying deficiencies in the kernel, and with Unix. The real core issues can't be addressed without a large amount of changes there, which are outside the control of a service manager.
- nine_k 5y agoI'd love to see a later development of a proper system manager that learns from systemd's faults and allows for compatible interfaces for transition. Much like Pipewire exposes PulseAudio interfaces but is implemented differently.
- zxzax 5y agoTo me it's the other way around -- pipewire is the sound server equivalent of systemd. For better or for worse.