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Then you should be allowed to apply the Nike brand to them. Producers' interests don't matter. They only exist to serve the customer.

mantas 5y ago
So we'd end up with Nike made by Nike and Nike made by someone else? Then, in general public eyes, Nike-made-by-Nike would become true Nike.
- anoncake 5y ago
  If someone is willing to pay extra for an identical product because it's made by a more famous company they have only themselves to blame.
  - WanderPanda 5y ago
    How long must one keep his IT infrastructure as cattle instead of pets to come to believe that such a thing like an „identical“ product exists? :p In the real world almost nothing is fungible. Additionally, even with white labelling there is value created (look at Xiaomi for an example).
  - bawolff 5y ago
    Have you met humans? Most status-symbols are all about the brand name, identical products made by other people don't count. And im ok with that. If someone makes a shitty knock-off,i dont think the original manufacturer should get the blame.
    - anoncake 5y ago
      > shitty knock-off I wrote "identical"
  - iso1210 5y ago
    Sure, it's also their choice. I wouldn't buy Nike trainers or Levi jeans, but I'm sure some people do, and by taking away that choice you are stealing from them.
    - anoncake 5y ago
      What choice am I taking away from them?
      - iso1210 5y ago
        The choice of where to spend their money - if they choose to spend it with Adidas, despite you and me thinking the product is terrible, and a far cheaper copy is better - that's their choice. By preventing them from knowing where the money is going, you are harming the consumer. This is different to copyright or patents where the consumer is prevented from buying the alternative.
iso1210 5y ago
Which is why the Nike brand shouldn't be on them. As a consumer I want to know who made it. By all means sell the same shoes and call them "Victoria" or "Kratos" or something, and I might even buy them if I felt they were an appropriate value.
- anoncake 5y ago
  The packaging should make clear that these Nike shoes aren't made by Nike. But there is no reason to restrict what the shoes themselves look like. At most, a label on the soles would be reasonable so second hand buyers can identify who made their shoes.

mantas 5y ago

So we'd end up with Nike made by Nike and Nike made by someone else? Then, in general public eyes, Nike-made-by-Nike would become true Nike.

anoncake 5y ago
If someone is willing to pay extra for an identical product because it's made by a more famous company they have only themselves to blame.
- WanderPanda 5y ago
  How long must one keep his IT infrastructure as cattle instead of pets to come to believe that such a thing like an „identical“ product exists? :p In the real world almost nothing is fungible. Additionally, even with white labelling there is value created (look at Xiaomi for an example).
- bawolff 5y ago
  Have you met humans? Most status-symbols are all about the brand name, identical products made by other people don't count. And im ok with that. If someone makes a shitty knock-off,i dont think the original manufacturer should get the blame.
  - anoncake 5y ago
    > shitty knock-off I wrote "identical"
- iso1210 5y ago
  Sure, it's also their choice. I wouldn't buy Nike trainers or Levi jeans, but I'm sure some people do, and by taking away that choice you are stealing from them.
  - anoncake 5y ago
    What choice am I taking away from them?
    - iso1210 5y ago
      The choice of where to spend their money - if they choose to spend it with Adidas, despite you and me thinking the product is terrible, and a far cheaper copy is better - that's their choice. By preventing them from knowing where the money is going, you are harming the consumer. This is different to copyright or patents where the consumer is prevented from buying the alternative.

iso1210 5y ago

Which is why the Nike brand shouldn't be on them. As a consumer I want to know who made it. By all means sell the same shoes and call them "Victoria" or "Kratos" or something, and I might even buy them if I felt they were an appropriate value.

anoncake 5y ago
The packaging should make clear that these Nike shoes aren't made by Nike. But there is no reason to restrict what the shoes themselves look like. At most, a label on the soles would be reasonable so second hand buyers can identify who made their shoes.