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10gbit is just on the border of affordable for IT hobbyist people Lots of data center hardware getting sold in masses on eBay. And copper cables these days

10gbit is just on the border of affordable for IT hobbyist people Lots of data center hardware getting sold in masses on eBay. And copper cables these days also can do 10gbit, but even fiber at home you can get the Transceivers for about 15€ each, and a switch for another 200€used, some old PC as Router with cheap 10gbit card also works wonders

bserge 5y ago
The problem here is most people want new. Why? I have no idea. Maybe they're thinking of everyone buying one. I've been looking at making a NAS box and it would cost less than 200 Euros for decent hardware (better than some QNAP, including a 10Gbps fiber adapter and Wifi) and a completely custom aluminum case.
- DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
  I hope I'm not taken the wrong way - but in certain geographies technologist salaries/total-comp are such that it costs us more money to search for bargains than it does to plonk down $hundreds for brand-name SMB hardware for our SOHO gear. That is is why we buy new kit instead of used. I could spend 2-3 hours of my time scanning eBay and Craigslist and comparing spreadsheets of compatible equipement and then waiting for USPS mail deliveries (at my $200/hr consulting rate) or I could spent 5-10 minutes on Ubiquiti's online store and be done with it. It's ugly and I dislike it (the thrill of the chase...). But that's capitalism. Frankly I won't be able to "enjoy" this again until I'm after retirement...
  - bserge 5y ago
    That makes sense (and explains a lot, actually). But in that case you're not complaining about the cost of hardware, I think. I was commenting more on people who think it's too expensive but still want new. Since we're on topic, having been born in the land of no opportunities, I've learned to save on everything. And I've learned to build/make anything, quite literally. It's not that hard and it's really satisfying, but sadly time consuming.
- gallexme 5y ago
  Do you happen to have a list of hardware which you plan to use? Or some pointers

bserge 5y ago

The problem here is most people want new. Why? I have no idea. Maybe they're thinking of everyone buying one. I've been looking at making a NAS box and it would cost less than 200 Euros for decent hardware (better than some QNAP, including a 10Gbps fiber adapter and Wifi) and a completely custom aluminum case.

DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
I hope I'm not taken the wrong way - but in certain geographies technologist salaries/total-comp are such that it costs us more money to search for bargains than it does to plonk down $hundreds for brand-name SMB hardware for our SOHO gear. That is is why we buy new kit instead of used. I could spend 2-3 hours of my time scanning eBay and Craigslist and comparing spreadsheets of compatible equipement and then waiting for USPS mail deliveries (at my $200/hr consulting rate) or I could spent 5-10 minutes on Ubiquiti's online store and be done with it. It's ugly and I dislike it (the thrill of the chase...). But that's capitalism. Frankly I won't be able to "enjoy" this again until I'm after retirement...
- bserge 5y ago
  That makes sense (and explains a lot, actually). But in that case you're not complaining about the cost of hardware, I think. I was commenting more on people who think it's too expensive but still want new. Since we're on topic, having been born in the land of no opportunities, I've learned to save on everything. And I've learned to build/make anything, quite literally. It's not that hard and it's really satisfying, but sadly time consuming.
gallexme 5y ago
Do you happen to have a list of hardware which you plan to use? Or some pointers