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> The initial suggestion was to use Discord, but I luckly averted that. Why is Discord not a good choice in your opinion?

by ctas 5y ago

toxik 5y ago
If not for anything else, then because Discord is a service owned by somebody, Mumble isn’t. The free and open web depends on people using the Mumble model.
vifon 5y ago
For starters it's not free (as in freedom).
southerntofu 5y ago
It's a centralized, non-free service that feeds on people's data. That's horrible enough, but i'm guessing i can't even use it with a Tor browser? Mumble works plenty fine on the Tor network.
- paulcarroty 5y ago
  > can't even use it with a Tor browser? You can, but it will be painful with captcha and email submit links for your new IPs.
  - southerntofu 5y ago
    I haven't used Discord previously so i wouldn't know, but i read they use WebRTC. If so, then it wouldn't work with Tor Browser at all, which is built without WebRTC support for privacy reason. Please let me know if that's not the case.
summm 5y ago
I have some AdBlock and Anti-Tracker stuff configured. For each single login, discord makes me solve 2 captchas, enter my password twice and click on an emailed link. Fuck them. On mumble however, I start the client and it just works. Also, it instantly reconnects should the connection break.
- ctas 5y ago
  I've made a similar experience with Discords login flow. It's definitely broken. Fair enough.
- yusi-san 5y ago
  Do you open it on Firefox with an ad blocker etc? If yes it may come from reCaptcha and not from Discord itself (I had the same issues on websites that use reCaptcha). However, if you use the discord app you may not need to solve a captcha.
  - gkbrk 5y ago
    > It may come from reCaptcha and not from Discord itself Unless Google is employing hackers to secretly integrate reCaptcha into other apps, it is coming from Discord no matter who creates the captchas
  - KeepFlying 5y ago
    It's probably from ReCaptcha, but Discord is the one deciding to use that service to protect their logins so they are ultimately responsible.
- milankragujevic 5y ago
  It asks me the same even without adblock or tracker-blocker, because my IP address changes often. An annoying nightmare really when you "need" something from a Discord chat quickly. I stopped using it, insist on people emailing me or chatting on Telegram.
- allyourhorses 5y ago
  This gave me a giggle, perfect sentiment IMHO. Discord is basically saying "fuck you" at least 4 times each time you login, and the only appropriate response absolutely should be "no, fuck you"
  - jayparth 5y ago
    I think I've had to login to Discord probably twice over the last four years
lapnitnelav 5y ago
On top of what has already been said, I found Mumble to be a better voice com tool than Discord, sound quality is better, shortcut mapping more extensive, etc ... Discord having the slack-like features, video streaming and social networking integrated in a nice UI makes it a better all purpose consummer product unfortunately.
sneak 5y ago
They log all of the text chat, including DMs, so there are some major privacy implications.

> The initial suggestion was to use Discord, but I luckly averted that. Why is Discord not a good choice in your opinion?

by ctas 5y ago

> The initial suggestion was to use Discord, but I luckly averted that. Why is Discord not a good choice in your opinion?

toxik 5y ago

If not for anything else, then because Discord is a service owned by somebody, Mumble isn’t. The free and open web depends on people using the Mumble model.

vifon 5y ago

For starters it's not free (as in freedom).

southerntofu 5y ago

It's a centralized, non-free service that feeds on people's data. That's horrible enough, but i'm guessing i can't even use it with a Tor browser? Mumble works plenty fine on the Tor network.

paulcarroty 5y ago
> can't even use it with a Tor browser? You can, but it will be painful with captcha and email submit links for your new IPs.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  I haven't used Discord previously so i wouldn't know, but i read they use WebRTC. If so, then it wouldn't work with Tor Browser at all, which is built without WebRTC support for privacy reason. Please let me know if that's not the case.

summm 5y ago

I have some AdBlock and Anti-Tracker stuff configured. For each single login, discord makes me solve 2 captchas, enter my password twice and click on an emailed link. Fuck them. On mumble however, I start the client and it just works. Also, it instantly reconnects should the connection break.

ctas 5y ago
I've made a similar experience with Discords login flow. It's definitely broken. Fair enough.
yusi-san 5y ago
Do you open it on Firefox with an ad blocker etc? If yes it may come from reCaptcha and not from Discord itself (I had the same issues on websites that use reCaptcha). However, if you use the discord app you may not need to solve a captcha.
- gkbrk 5y ago
  > It may come from reCaptcha and not from Discord itself Unless Google is employing hackers to secretly integrate reCaptcha into other apps, it is coming from Discord no matter who creates the captchas
- KeepFlying 5y ago
  It's probably from ReCaptcha, but Discord is the one deciding to use that service to protect their logins so they are ultimately responsible.
milankragujevic 5y ago
It asks me the same even without adblock or tracker-blocker, because my IP address changes often. An annoying nightmare really when you "need" something from a Discord chat quickly. I stopped using it, insist on people emailing me or chatting on Telegram.
allyourhorses 5y ago
This gave me a giggle, perfect sentiment IMHO. Discord is basically saying "fuck you" at least 4 times each time you login, and the only appropriate response absolutely should be "no, fuck you"
- jayparth 5y ago
  I think I've had to login to Discord probably twice over the last four years

lapnitnelav 5y ago

On top of what has already been said, I found Mumble to be a better voice com tool than Discord, sound quality is better, shortcut mapping more extensive, etc ... Discord having the slack-like features, video streaming and social networking integrated in a nice UI makes it a better all purpose consummer product unfortunately.

sneak 5y ago

They log all of the text chat, including DMs, so there are some major privacy implications.