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If eating GMOs has you scared, this should be absolutely terrifying
by puchatek 5y ago
If eating GMOs has you scared, this should be absolutely terrifying
- alex_sf 5y agoAll crops are GMO. The only difference is how fast they were modified.
- karottenreibe 5y agoAre you saying that's not a significant difference? It seems to me.
- laburn 5y agoIt seems to you what?
- hoseja 5y agoProbably that letting the slow-GMO survive in a natural environment for hundreds of years does wonders for ironing out the really bad bugs. I'm not anti-GMO but i've been more wary ever since I realized it will inevitably be used to make better citizens (and not by making them better humans).
- petre 5y agoIt depends. There's a number of dog breeds with known genetical issues. GE is a double edged sword just like nuclear energy. With great power comes great responsability.
- hoseja 5y agoThose are mostly innovations of the latest century or so, bred "scientifically", regulated by dog breed foundations and chasing dog-show metrics.
- alex_sf 5y agoNot really any more alarming to me than the initial domestication I guess. Manipulating the world around us is kinda our whole deal as a species.
- null_object 5y ago> All crops are GMO. The only difference is how fast they were modified. This is often said in defense of GMO, but surely cross-breeding and hybridization - a farmer or gardener attempting to combine the entire genetic entity of one plant with another one (which must therefore be naturally compatible), to increase the potential utility of the result - is totally different to inserting a single gene from a totally arbitrary source (which can therefore be a completely separate life-form)?
- _0ffh 5y agoAnd then there's Atomic Gardening which has been done for ages and does not officially count as producing GMOs, IIRC.
- drran 5y agoIf I make a sandwich (wheat genes + chicken genes + cow genes + yeast genes) and cover it with honey (insect genes), what will happen to me when I will eat it?
- pas 5y agoWith enough time that trait would show up by simple selective breeding too. GMO does it faster. (Of course so much faster that there is an argument that it's qualitatively not the same as good old breeding. And if someone comes up with some kind of killer trees that release anthrax in the spring that too counts as GMO too, but they are unlikely to be deterred by labeling requirements or GMO bans.)
- rorykoehler 5y agoThis is false. The distance between selective breeding and GMO is horizontal vs vertical gene transfer.
- esperent 5y agoSo if I'm fine with GMO food (and medicine), by extension I'll fine with this. ... Or is that a logical fallacy?
- HPsquared 5y agoThe statement was "If A, then B". You're not A, so it doesn't apply. The statement doesn't say anything about the "Not A" case.
- oehtXRwMkIs 5y agoThe inverse of a conditional is not logically equivalent.
- systoll 5y agoThat’d be a logical fallacy: Denying the antecedent. If your program won’t compile, it has a bug somewhere. If your program will compile, it almost certainly still has a bug somewhere.
- TulliusCicero 5y agoYeah I bet the dude in the article is scared shitless about nanoparticles now that he's not gonna die.