> "you know that is it an entirely distinct human being" You know that it isn't entirely distinct, it is inside and completely dependent upon another human. >

> "you know that is it an entirely distinct human being" You know that it isn't entirely distinct, it is inside and completely dependent upon another human. > "In order to justify abortion, you would need to argue that murder (which is the direct, intentional killing of an innocent human being) is justifiable." How do you feel when a woman has a miscarriage? The child is dead, the mother's body deliberately killed it. Is she culpable? Is it different if her brain cells are involved in the rejection of the child? Isn't that you assigning arbitrary boundaries according to taste? There have to be arbitrary boundaries, the universe is a single thing, the idea of there being separate things inside it is a human convenient fiction, it's not real. The boundaries between things are fuzzy and disappear the closer you look at them. There's "just" atoms and energy, everything else is concept, if we want morals in the universe we have to make them up, and if we want them to apply to people, we have to make those up too.