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> I have to believe it's fixable within our lifetimes It might be technologically possible. But right now the limiting factor is people's complacency. Only a

by lisper 5y ago

> I have to believe it's fixable within our lifetimes It might be technologically possible. But right now the limiting factor is people's complacency. Only a very tiny minority seems to be taking the problem as seriously as it should be taken. Everyone still seems to think that we're looking at the odd anomalous heat wave here and there, and that real catastrophe is still several generations away. It isn't. The first thing that needs to change is for everyone, and our political leaders in particular, to accept that. Because by the time it becomes obvious to everyone that we have been staring down the barrel of a gun for the last 300 years it really will be too late.

specialist 5y ago
I hear you and I agree. What's the alternative? I volunteered for Audubon's Wetlands Conservation Network effort for a decade. Trying to save the wild salmon, maybe even restore some. I learned from them in the early 90s that it was already game over. (Confirmed at the time by my physicist cousin who pivoted his career to work on climate crisis.) I asked the biologists (my bosses) how they managed to persevere, knowing what they know. They answered that they just focus on the work, and try to enjoy life outside of work. So I came to think of it as Pascal's Wager for the survival of civilization, humanity itself, and very probably most of life. We probably won't survive. But why not try? Not telling you anything you don't know. Policy change happens very slowly, then all at once. So who knows? Maybe we'll out run the bear. If and when we pull our thumbs out, assuming I'm still here, I intend to help however I can. At the very least, working on something important would be nice. I've been reading your posts for a while now. I'm sure you'll help too. Peace.
- lisper 5y ago
  > I learned in the early 90s that it was already game over Wow. Climate change wasn't even on most people's radar then.

by lisper 5y ago

specialist 5y ago

I hear you and I agree. What's the alternative? I volunteered for Audubon's Wetlands Conservation Network effort for a decade. Trying to save the wild salmon, maybe even restore some. I learned from them in the early 90s that it was already game over. (Confirmed at the time by my physicist cousin who pivoted his career to work on climate crisis.) I asked the biologists (my bosses) how they managed to persevere, knowing what they know. They answered that they just focus on the work, and try to enjoy life outside of work. So I came to think of it as Pascal's Wager for the survival of civilization, humanity itself, and very probably most of life. We probably won't survive. But why not try? Not telling you anything you don't know. Policy change happens very slowly, then all at once. So who knows? Maybe we'll out run the bear. If and when we pull our thumbs out, assuming I'm still here, I intend to help however I can. At the very least, working on something important would be nice. I've been reading your posts for a while now. I'm sure you'll help too. Peace.

lisper 5y ago
> I learned in the early 90s that it was already game over Wow. Climate change wasn't even on most people's radar then.