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>I moved to a conservative state to escape modern insanity and have made many strong friendships. How do any of those 3 things relate to one another? This is s

by tmh88j 5y ago

>I moved to a conservative state to escape modern insanity and have made many strong friendships. How do any of those 3 things relate to one another? This is such a bizarre non-sequitur that I can only assume you're trolling.

mkr-hn 5y ago
Small towns can be pretty chill if you're vaccinated and pretend not to see the iron crosses and confederate flags.
- tmh88j 5y ago
  I don't follow. Are there no small towns in Vermont or California?
  - mkr-hn 5y ago
    I don't know about dkdk8283, but people make assumptions about states and the people in them. I've run into plenty of people online who heard I was from the south and assumed I was some terrible racist. Moving states can align stereotypes with views and save some headaches, if you can afford it.
    - the_only_law 5y ago
      > I've run into plenty of people online who heard I was from the south and assumed I was some terrible racist Heh, I’ve got some interesting comments about this before. I was once told by someone that they were surprised I listened to rap because I’m from the south and this wouldn’t like the race of the artists.
  - tomjakubowski 5y ago
    You'll see confederate flags in some small, remote towns in California. Bigger ones, too, like Huntington Beach.
- strait 5y ago
  I was visiting family in a very rural part of Texas recently. No iron crosses or confederate flags, but plenty of Trump/Pence flags and signs still around. It's probably the best place to be unvaccinated actually. People out there are accustomed to keeping a respectful distance, aside from the occasional brief hug or handshake. They will not tolerate crowded conditions as in the city, because they don't have to. Even the Sunday church congregations are sparser than in days past. Consequently, the Covid threat out there has remained quite low.
AlexSW 5y ago
I thought the same but nowhere near as eloquently.
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throwaway89652 5y ago
Compare the "Seattle freeze" to "Minnesota nice" or "Southern hosoitality." There's a reason blue areas generally have reputations as being cliquey and hostile while red areas generally have reputations of friendliness and hospitality.
- tmh88j 5y ago
  You're really grasping for straws to somehow tie politics into small towns and friendship, while also making assumptions about me. Yes, I saw the comment that you made and promptly deleted. Your red vs blue ranting is nonsensical. I live in Texas and have lived in a few small towns in WV for several years. I have a lot of friends all over the political spectrum, and hobbies that are stereotypically aligned with those demographics, so I spend a lot of time around all kinds of people. I'm not quite sure what you're rambling on about, but from this message and the one you deleted you sure have strong opinions about...something. You're afraid to use your main account, I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond.
  - throwaway89652 5y ago
    i deleted the first comment because it was making assumptions about you. That an inability to understand what the original poster meant could only signify trolling demonstrated to me a lack of either imagination or good will. Given this is HN, I assumed the latter, but upon reflection decided that it didn't necessarily follow. Accordingly, I deleted the post. I figured I should then at least have the candor to sign post what I perceived to be the original poster's intent since you and others seemed to have trouble with it. Given your hostile response to that response (naturally after having been attacked) I won't continue to try. In all honesty, if you're that insulated from the current zeitgeist, consider yourself fortunate.
    - tmh88j 5y ago
      > since you and others seemed to have trouble with it. Given your hostile response to that response (naturally after having been attacked) I won't continue to try. How is what I asked hostile? They commenter made a statement about small towns and politics equating friendship. I've lived in those areas and I still have no idea what they mean. You have very strong opinions in this area and keep on lobbing partial ideas out there (just like this) as if everyone should understand how you feel without explicitly stating why. >In all honesty, if you're that insulated from the current zeitgeist, consider yourself fortunate. You seem to be consuming more media than you are interacting with the folks they're stirring up propaganda about to get views. As I've previously mentioned I have hobbies that are stereotypically aligned with certain demographics, and from the countless hours I've spent at gun ranges, muscle car shows and shops, tech conventions and art fairs, 99% of people's beliefs are not at the extremes of the political spectrum. The vocal minority usually creates the divisive attention you seem to be speaking of. I saw your other comment in this thread about ditching your friends because they were "more trouble than it's worth". I'm not surprised you believe everyone is at each other's throats based on that comment. Most people are very reasonable.
aaron695 5y ago
> This is such a bizarre non-sequitur that I can only assume you're trolling. It's a simple concept conservatives like conservative things like valuing long strong friendships. They in theory, value and do well a small number of things. And it's a simple concept liberals like many flashy new things, they value the new and different. It's a fair idea to do friendships well you move to a conservative place. To get lots of friends who come and go, you would go liberal. Why is this trolling? Its a reasonable thesis. I don't think it's perfect, but it's interesting.
- ajkdhcb2 5y ago
  I know conservative vs liberal is just an arbitrary set of stereotypes, but that doesn't seem to fit any typical model I have in my mind
- wittycardio 5y ago
  How could you be so deluded to believe that a desire to have good friends is based on your politics ? This is why people think conservatives are stupid, just because you use the word thesis doesn't mean that there's any value in what you're saying
dkdk8283 5y ago
I came here to share an anecdote and never have I felt so unwelcome.
- jfengel 5y ago
  I think it's the part where you defined "conservative" as the opposite of "modern insanity", thus implying that people who weren't conservative were insane. You made other people feel unwelcome, and that might be why you received unwelcoming responses in return.

by tmh88j 5y ago

mkr-hn 5y ago

Small towns can be pretty chill if you're vaccinated and pretend not to see the iron crosses and confederate flags.

tmh88j 5y ago
I don't follow. Are there no small towns in Vermont or California?
- mkr-hn 5y ago
  I don't know about dkdk8283, but people make assumptions about states and the people in them. I've run into plenty of people online who heard I was from the south and assumed I was some terrible racist. Moving states can align stereotypes with views and save some headaches, if you can afford it.
  - the_only_law 5y ago
    > I've run into plenty of people online who heard I was from the south and assumed I was some terrible racist Heh, I’ve got some interesting comments about this before. I was once told by someone that they were surprised I listened to rap because I’m from the south and this wouldn’t like the race of the artists.
- tomjakubowski 5y ago
  You'll see confederate flags in some small, remote towns in California. Bigger ones, too, like Huntington Beach.
strait 5y ago
I was visiting family in a very rural part of Texas recently. No iron crosses or confederate flags, but plenty of Trump/Pence flags and signs still around. It's probably the best place to be unvaccinated actually. People out there are accustomed to keeping a respectful distance, aside from the occasional brief hug or handshake. They will not tolerate crowded conditions as in the city, because they don't have to. Even the Sunday church congregations are sparser than in days past. Consequently, the Covid threat out there has remained quite low.

AlexSW 5y ago

I thought the same but nowhere near as eloquently.

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throwaway89652 5y ago

Compare the "Seattle freeze" to "Minnesota nice" or "Southern hosoitality." There's a reason blue areas generally have reputations as being cliquey and hostile while red areas generally have reputations of friendliness and hospitality.

tmh88j 5y ago
You're really grasping for straws to somehow tie politics into small towns and friendship, while also making assumptions about me. Yes, I saw the comment that you made and promptly deleted. Your red vs blue ranting is nonsensical. I live in Texas and have lived in a few small towns in WV for several years. I have a lot of friends all over the political spectrum, and hobbies that are stereotypically aligned with those demographics, so I spend a lot of time around all kinds of people. I'm not quite sure what you're rambling on about, but from this message and the one you deleted you sure have strong opinions about...something. You're afraid to use your main account, I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond.
- throwaway89652 5y ago
  i deleted the first comment because it was making assumptions about you. That an inability to understand what the original poster meant could only signify trolling demonstrated to me a lack of either imagination or good will. Given this is HN, I assumed the latter, but upon reflection decided that it didn't necessarily follow. Accordingly, I deleted the post. I figured I should then at least have the candor to sign post what I perceived to be the original poster's intent since you and others seemed to have trouble with it. Given your hostile response to that response (naturally after having been attacked) I won't continue to try. In all honesty, if you're that insulated from the current zeitgeist, consider yourself fortunate.
  - tmh88j 5y ago
    > since you and others seemed to have trouble with it. Given your hostile response to that response (naturally after having been attacked) I won't continue to try. How is what I asked hostile? They commenter made a statement about small towns and politics equating friendship. I've lived in those areas and I still have no idea what they mean. You have very strong opinions in this area and keep on lobbing partial ideas out there (just like this) as if everyone should understand how you feel without explicitly stating why. >In all honesty, if you're that insulated from the current zeitgeist, consider yourself fortunate. You seem to be consuming more media than you are interacting with the folks they're stirring up propaganda about to get views. As I've previously mentioned I have hobbies that are stereotypically aligned with certain demographics, and from the countless hours I've spent at gun ranges, muscle car shows and shops, tech conventions and art fairs, 99% of people's beliefs are not at the extremes of the political spectrum. The vocal minority usually creates the divisive attention you seem to be speaking of. I saw your other comment in this thread about ditching your friends because they were "more trouble than it's worth". I'm not surprised you believe everyone is at each other's throats based on that comment. Most people are very reasonable.

aaron695 5y ago

> This is such a bizarre non-sequitur that I can only assume you're trolling. It's a simple concept conservatives like conservative things like valuing long strong friendships. They in theory, value and do well a small number of things. And it's a simple concept liberals like many flashy new things, they value the new and different. It's a fair idea to do friendships well you move to a conservative place. To get lots of friends who come and go, you would go liberal. Why is this trolling? Its a reasonable thesis. I don't think it's perfect, but it's interesting.

ajkdhcb2 5y ago
I know conservative vs liberal is just an arbitrary set of stereotypes, but that doesn't seem to fit any typical model I have in my mind
wittycardio 5y ago
How could you be so deluded to believe that a desire to have good friends is based on your politics ? This is why people think conservatives are stupid, just because you use the word thesis doesn't mean that there's any value in what you're saying

dkdk8283 5y ago

I came here to share an anecdote and never have I felt so unwelcome.

jfengel 5y ago
I think it's the part where you defined "conservative" as the opposite of "modern insanity", thus implying that people who weren't conservative were insane. You made other people feel unwelcome, and that might be why you received unwelcoming responses in return.