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At very small scales, this is already done with wood framing. There are vendors that will send out a pre-cut framing package with every piece of wood cut and m

At very small scales, this is already done with wood framing. There are vendors that will send out a pre-cut framing package with every piece of wood cut and marked, and even stacked in the right order for fairly optimal assembly. The trouble is that most house plans are not put together to a sufficient level of detail for this to work - contractors rely on all kinds of field decisions/adjustments.

ianbicking 5y ago
How many house plans does the world need? 100? 1000?
- lostapathy 5y ago
  I don't disagree. This shouldn't be an insurmountable problem, but it's definitely the current state of the art. I'm currently in the process of having a house built, and it's infuriating to me as an engineer how little detail I'm allowed to have either before or during the process. I have to rely on change orders to fix things that were totally preventable/plannable.
  - ianbicking 5y ago
    I'm sure it's my naive hubris that makes me think someone should just design a dozen houses, each with a handful of well defined modifications (including to the facade), and do it with enough specificity that it could be turned into very exact instructions and material lists that suppliers could easily fulfill. Hubris in particular because I'm sure architects think a lot about this and if they don't do it it's for some good reason... or they have done it and it just doesn't effect the market like I imagine it could. I read about a government research program into building (70s?) that failed to reach its own goals but did advance building standards, and this does feel like something where government funded research could help. Something closer to how highway safety research is done, as opposed to scientific research.
    - lostapathy 5y ago
      I'd be shocked if even 1% of houses built in the US actually involve an architect. Nearly all are built by a builder and plans drawn by a drafter. There are prescriptive codes for everything "normal", so you don't have to consult an architect or engineer for structural things on most "common" houses. Figure anything up to 2x median purchase price probably can be built without either an architect or an engineer. It's a crazy world and I don't disagree with you, but the housing market really doesn't work like one wants to think.

ianbicking 5y ago

How many house plans does the world need? 100? 1000?

lostapathy 5y ago
I don't disagree. This shouldn't be an insurmountable problem, but it's definitely the current state of the art. I'm currently in the process of having a house built, and it's infuriating to me as an engineer how little detail I'm allowed to have either before or during the process. I have to rely on change orders to fix things that were totally preventable/plannable.
- ianbicking 5y ago
  I'm sure it's my naive hubris that makes me think someone should just design a dozen houses, each with a handful of well defined modifications (including to the facade), and do it with enough specificity that it could be turned into very exact instructions and material lists that suppliers could easily fulfill. Hubris in particular because I'm sure architects think a lot about this and if they don't do it it's for some good reason... or they have done it and it just doesn't effect the market like I imagine it could. I read about a government research program into building (70s?) that failed to reach its own goals but did advance building standards, and this does feel like something where government funded research could help. Something closer to how highway safety research is done, as opposed to scientific research.
  - lostapathy 5y ago
    I'd be shocked if even 1% of houses built in the US actually involve an architect. Nearly all are built by a builder and plans drawn by a drafter. There are prescriptive codes for everything "normal", so you don't have to consult an architect or engineer for structural things on most "common" houses. Figure anything up to 2x median purchase price probably can be built without either an architect or an engineer. It's a crazy world and I don't disagree with you, but the housing market really doesn't work like one wants to think.