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>The Russian bit can be politically inconvenient for you and yet also be true. I'm not sure how it's politically inconvenient for me when I'm a registered Paci

>The Russian bit can be politically inconvenient for you and yet also be true. I'm not sure how it's politically inconvenient for me when I'm a registered Pacific Green. People need to stop "thinking" in false dichotomies like left vs right or liberal vs. conservative. Astrology is six times smarter.

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dragonwriter 5y ago
> I'm not sure how it's politically inconvenient for me when I'm a registered Pacific Green. The West being less hostile to and more willing to collaborate with Russia is a frequent position promoted in Pacific Green circles; Russia being tied to active hostile activity against Western regimes is politically inconvenient to that message.
- NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
  >The West being less hostile to and more willing to collaborate with Russia is a frequent position promoted in Pacific Green circles Pure DNC propaganda. Zero basis in reality.
  - extra88 5y ago
    I assume by "Pacific Green" you mean the Pacific Green Party of Oregon. A quote from the party platform: > We the People must: […] End the cold war with Iran and the resurgent cold war with Russia, forestall the emerging economic war with China, and withdraw from NATO. You might argue that this doesn't require being more willing to collaborate with Russia but it absolutely means being less hostile to Russia. https://www.pacificgreens.org/platform https://www.pacificgreens.org/platform
    - landemva 5y ago
      I had not heard of that political party. Those positions seem smart and reasonable for a country drowning in deficit spending. Withdraw from NATO would be a good start. The not-to-be-praised former President attempted troop drawdown from Germany, which was quickly reversed earlier this year.
- roenxi 5y ago
  > The West being less hostile to and more willing to collaborate with Russia is a frequent position promoted in Pacific Green circles This should be a frequent position promoted in sane circles. What is the alternative, promoting war between nuclear powers? A permanent campaign of bullying, hoping that the Russians never get into a position to do anything about it? If the US can be close allies with the Saudis and the Israelis at the same time, they can collaborate with Russia.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > This should be a frequent position promoted in sane circles The merits of the idea are irrelevant to whether an American politician corruptly colluding with Russia is politically inconvenient to those holding it.
fossuser 5y ago
Doesn’t have to be left vs. right. Politically motivated reasoning can come from any party or person. The comic’s content suggested some anti-Hillary sentiment, that paired with “Russiagate” suggested some pro-Bernie political lean, Green Party probably fits with that? Aren’t they more hard-left? Sister reply is also relevant.

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dragonwriter 5y ago

> I'm not sure how it's politically inconvenient for me when I'm a registered Pacific Green. The West being less hostile to and more willing to collaborate with Russia is a frequent position promoted in Pacific Green circles; Russia being tied to active hostile activity against Western regimes is politically inconvenient to that message.

NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
>The West being less hostile to and more willing to collaborate with Russia is a frequent position promoted in Pacific Green circles Pure DNC propaganda. Zero basis in reality.
- extra88 5y ago
  I assume by "Pacific Green" you mean the Pacific Green Party of Oregon. A quote from the party platform: > We the People must: […] End the cold war with Iran and the resurgent cold war with Russia, forestall the emerging economic war with China, and withdraw from NATO. You might argue that this doesn't require being more willing to collaborate with Russia but it absolutely means being less hostile to Russia. https://www.pacificgreens.org/platform https://www.pacificgreens.org/platform
  - landemva 5y ago
    I had not heard of that political party. Those positions seem smart and reasonable for a country drowning in deficit spending. Withdraw from NATO would be a good start. The not-to-be-praised former President attempted troop drawdown from Germany, which was quickly reversed earlier this year.
roenxi 5y ago
> The West being less hostile to and more willing to collaborate with Russia is a frequent position promoted in Pacific Green circles This should be a frequent position promoted in sane circles. What is the alternative, promoting war between nuclear powers? A permanent campaign of bullying, hoping that the Russians never get into a position to do anything about it? If the US can be close allies with the Saudis and the Israelis at the same time, they can collaborate with Russia.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > This should be a frequent position promoted in sane circles The merits of the idea are irrelevant to whether an American politician corruptly colluding with Russia is politically inconvenient to those holding it.

fossuser 5y ago

Doesn’t have to be left vs. right. Politically motivated reasoning can come from any party or person. The comic’s content suggested some anti-Hillary sentiment, that paired with “Russiagate” suggested some pro-Bernie political lean, Green Party probably fits with that? Aren’t they more hard-left? Sister reply is also relevant.