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> this has not been presented. s/presented/investigated There's a lot of things to investigate https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-s

> this has not been presented. s/presented/investigated There's a lot of things to investigate https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helpe... but since the whole world saw what happened on the 6th and what did not after I don't think there'll ever be evidences extraordinary enough to act on any kind of claims.

nnvcxsstb 5y ago
What happened on the sixth? You mean the Reichstag Fire? https://greenwald.substack.com/p/questions-about-the-fbis-role-in https://greenwald.substack.com/p/questions-about-the-fbis-ro... The whole world saw what the FBI wanted them to see on the sixth. Time will tell what actually happened.
rendall 5y ago
Lots of "evidence" in the form of breathless articles quoting anonymous sources who say they really have a smoking gun. This evidence is convincing only to those who are inclined to believe it. What we need is extraordinary evidence that is unambiguously convincing to everyone. That we do not have
- freeflight 5y ago
  To this day most people are still in denial about US involvement in that whole Ukraine situation. Even tho Euromaidan had US senators in person riling up protesters for regime change [0] and the new interim PM, after a bloody revolution, was sponsored by literally the US DoS and NATO [1]. Pointing this pretty blatant evidence out just gets one called a "Russian troll". While in the US some extremely obscure financial connections to Russia, are allegedly responsible for singlehandedly deciding a whole election and making the following one also a rather close call. Maybe it's just me, but this seems like a pretty blatant double standard, one that also disfranchises a substantial part of the US population, as allegedly being nothing than "idiots" brainwashed by Russia. It's no wonder how this kind of narrative keeps increasing the hostility and tribalism, even if Russia wouldn't do anything at all. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-support-just-cause https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-uk... [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20200328203654/https://openukraine.org/en/about/partners https://web.archive.org/web/20200328203654/https://openukrai...

nnvcxsstb 5y ago

What happened on the sixth? You mean the Reichstag Fire? https://greenwald.substack.com/p/questions-about-the-fbis-role-in https://greenwald.substack.com/p/questions-about-the-fbis-ro... The whole world saw what the FBI wanted them to see on the sixth. Time will tell what actually happened.

rendall 5y ago

Lots of "evidence" in the form of breathless articles quoting anonymous sources who say they really have a smoking gun. This evidence is convincing only to those who are inclined to believe it. What we need is extraordinary evidence that is unambiguously convincing to everyone. That we do not have

freeflight 5y ago
To this day most people are still in denial about US involvement in that whole Ukraine situation. Even tho Euromaidan had US senators in person riling up protesters for regime change [0] and the new interim PM, after a bloody revolution, was sponsored by literally the US DoS and NATO [1]. Pointing this pretty blatant evidence out just gets one called a "Russian troll". While in the US some extremely obscure financial connections to Russia, are allegedly responsible for singlehandedly deciding a whole election and making the following one also a rather close call. Maybe it's just me, but this seems like a pretty blatant double standard, one that also disfranchises a substantial part of the US population, as allegedly being nothing than "idiots" brainwashed by Russia. It's no wonder how this kind of narrative keeps increasing the hostility and tribalism, even if Russia wouldn't do anything at all. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-support-just-cause https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-uk... [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20200328203654/https://openukraine.org/en/about/partners https://web.archive.org/web/20200328203654/https://openukrai...