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That article that that Forbes post cited claims that two (!) people in Georgia drank Chlorine dioxide. There is also no evidence that Trump is the reason they d

That article that that Forbes post cited claims that two (!) people in Georgia drank Chlorine dioxide. There is also no evidence that Trump is the reason they drank it. 2 people out of over 300 million Americans drinking that does not show that this is a widespread phenomenon, like you seem to imply in your post -- "Americans are literally drinking bleach!" Let's please make sure our comments are backed up by data, it ensures discussions here on HN are productive. Also, the leading fact checkers, Politifact, refute your claim and state that "No, Trump didn’t tell Americans infected with the coronavirus to drink bleach". It is not very useful to be pushing debunked narratives on Hacker News... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/11/joe-biden/no-trump-didnt-tell-americans-infected-coronavirus/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/11/joe-biden/...

mint2 5y ago
Trump went on live tv and literally rambled about injecting disinfectants as a possible treatment for the virus. And “ramble” is not opinion, there is no better word for his statement on disinfectants, repeated below. I disagree with the politifact rating, based on what Trump said it should be “mostly true”. And the cdc even conduced a poll, apparently in response to trump’s press conference, that found 4% of respondents ingested or gargled bleach. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-06-05/cdc-some-people-did-take-bleach-to-protect-from-coronavirus https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-06-05/... Biden named one of the specific types of disinfectant that trumps followers were literally drinking in response to his ramble about injecting disinfectants. The claim is mostly true. Here trump’s quote below, HN readers can be the judge if it. “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.”
- jaz2130 5y ago
  That quote does not say to drink disinfectant... implying that it does is disingenuous at best. Even the far left PolitiFact admits that!
  - mint2 5y ago
    No it’s not disingenuous, in a pedantic reading of it he rambles about injecting it inside and cleaning right after similarly musing about bringing UV light inside the body. The result is people drink (a typical way people bring things inside their body ) bleach (one of the most common household disinfectants). Then a couple months later biden recounts it as trump telling people to drink bleach. To my mind it sounds excessively pedantic to rate that as mostly false. The claim matches the direct outcome of trumps words, and was close to but not the exact terminology used. In my opinion it’s far too pedantic to call that mostly false rather than mostly true. But okay were going to have different opinions on that matter, let’s compromise. I think we can both agree it’s completely accurate to say that evidence suggests trump’s musings about disinfectants as a corona virus treatment on National tv led Americans to drink bleach. ————- And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting," the president continued. "And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? "So it'd be interesting to check that."

mint2 5y ago

Trump went on live tv and literally rambled about injecting disinfectants as a possible treatment for the virus. And “ramble” is not opinion, there is no better word for his statement on disinfectants, repeated below. I disagree with the politifact rating, based on what Trump said it should be “mostly true”. And the cdc even conduced a poll, apparently in response to trump’s press conference, that found 4% of respondents ingested or gargled bleach. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-06-05/cdc-some-people-did-take-bleach-to-protect-from-coronavirus https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-06-05/... Biden named one of the specific types of disinfectant that trumps followers were literally drinking in response to his ramble about injecting disinfectants. The claim is mostly true. Here trump’s quote below, HN readers can be the judge if it. “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.”

jaz2130 5y ago
That quote does not say to drink disinfectant... implying that it does is disingenuous at best. Even the far left PolitiFact admits that!
- mint2 5y ago
  No it’s not disingenuous, in a pedantic reading of it he rambles about injecting it inside and cleaning right after similarly musing about bringing UV light inside the body. The result is people drink (a typical way people bring things inside their body ) bleach (one of the most common household disinfectants). Then a couple months later biden recounts it as trump telling people to drink bleach. To my mind it sounds excessively pedantic to rate that as mostly false. The claim matches the direct outcome of trumps words, and was close to but not the exact terminology used. In my opinion it’s far too pedantic to call that mostly false rather than mostly true. But okay were going to have different opinions on that matter, let’s compromise. I think we can both agree it’s completely accurate to say that evidence suggests trump’s musings about disinfectants as a corona virus treatment on National tv led Americans to drink bleach. ————- And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting," the president continued. "And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? "So it'd be interesting to check that."