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While Slack displays all your organizations in a single tabbed UI, presenting you with the number of unread messages on the tab icons in Teams you need to hard

by chx 5y ago

While Slack displays all your organizations in a single tabbed UI, presenting you with the number of unread messages on the tab icons in Teams you need to hard switch and you never know what happens in the others. This makes Teams worse than nothing in communications because one half of the communication expects you to communicate and you are not even aware of this. You literally must jump organizations constantly , possibly needing to log in too, just to see who is pinging you. This has been known since 2016 at least https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/17750851-i-want-to-use-multiple-teams-accounts-at-the-same https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/su... "Support for multiple work accounts is still being worked on and will come at a later date."

monkeybutton 5y ago
Right! My company switched from Slack to Teams and even though we recreated all our original channels, public discussion has all but died. Having to context switch between private messaging and public channels, even though it's just another tab, is apparently just too much friction. Also opening docs and excel sheets inside the main window by default and blocking chat while doing it is absolutely atrocious.
- wussboy 5y ago
  Your last paragraph is a huge source of frustration for me. Such a boner move.
- bluGill 5y ago
  Swtiching windows in teams is slow, 20 years ago Microsoft knew the research on this and minimum viable response time. They ignore it and the predictable result is people don't take advantage of teams. It possibly could be good, but I want Skype back, it didn't do as much, but what it did it did well.
ethbr0 5y ago
> chat, meeting, or channel (from parent) This is the root of all Teams fuckups. It's an asinine primitive mapping, that could only come from a project manager who spent their entire career optimizing SharePoint access controls to meet HR product requests. The entire point of modern chat solutions is persistence and searchability. So the only real differentiation should be public or private channels.
AtNightWeCode 5y ago
You can't even read stuff from other tenants if you are in a video call. Teams came for free at a lot companies I worked with and all of them have moved back to Slack and many of them are also paying for it.
- chx 5y ago
  My favorite about video calls is at one of my organizations I am access denied to recordings even when I participated in it. I can't attach images either. Someone built these features. Why are you building a feature on who can attach images?? The entire mindset is completely wrong and comes from an overcontrolling enterprise mindset completely incompatible with what we expect from a chat tool. Oh and every time I log in Teams asks whether it can control my entire device. No.
  - AtNightWeCode 5y ago
    Good it asks though. So many stupid apps like Instagram and so on that assumes that the logged on user owns the device. In Europe it is very common that you are provided with a device from your work place that you also use in private. I did a password reset on Instagram with such a device. Totally unexceptable.
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by chx 5y ago

monkeybutton 5y ago

Right! My company switched from Slack to Teams and even though we recreated all our original channels, public discussion has all but died. Having to context switch between private messaging and public channels, even though it's just another tab, is apparently just too much friction. Also opening docs and excel sheets inside the main window by default and blocking chat while doing it is absolutely atrocious.

wussboy 5y ago
Your last paragraph is a huge source of frustration for me. Such a boner move.
bluGill 5y ago
Swtiching windows in teams is slow, 20 years ago Microsoft knew the research on this and minimum viable response time. They ignore it and the predictable result is people don't take advantage of teams. It possibly could be good, but I want Skype back, it didn't do as much, but what it did it did well.

ethbr0 5y ago

> chat, meeting, or channel (from parent) This is the root of all Teams fuckups. It's an asinine primitive mapping, that could only come from a project manager who spent their entire career optimizing SharePoint access controls to meet HR product requests. The entire point of modern chat solutions is persistence and searchability. So the only real differentiation should be public or private channels.

AtNightWeCode 5y ago

You can't even read stuff from other tenants if you are in a video call. Teams came for free at a lot companies I worked with and all of them have moved back to Slack and many of them are also paying for it.

chx 5y ago
My favorite about video calls is at one of my organizations I am access denied to recordings even when I participated in it. I can't attach images either. Someone built these features. Why are you building a feature on who can attach images?? The entire mindset is completely wrong and comes from an overcontrolling enterprise mindset completely incompatible with what we expect from a chat tool. Oh and every time I log in Teams asks whether it can control my entire device. No.
- AtNightWeCode 5y ago
  Good it asks though. So many stupid apps like Instagram and so on that assumes that the logged on user owns the device. In Europe it is very common that you are provided with a device from your work place that you also use in private. I did a password reset on Instagram with such a device. Totally unexceptable.
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