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> If I type in `apt update && apt update -y` I can be sure that my computer will be usable after a reboot As from my other replies, that's awesome - you're loo

by spinax 5y ago

> If I type in `apt update && apt update -y` I can be sure that my computer will be usable after a reboot As from my other replies, that's awesome - you're looking for a usage paradigm that is not what Arch is for; it requires attention and regular maintenance, and "keeping up" on a regular basis. You've hit the nail on the head with the followup sentence, you have to be willing to spend a day every now and then keeping up. Arch is not for people who want to ignore their system and hope it all just keeps working, then update 700 packages all at once and have it come crashing down. There is an agreement (the social kind, not the legal kind) you enter into when using Arch that you actually engage with it on a regular basis because you like doing that and like to tinker. It's build for experienced Linux techs who like to engage on a regular basis with the plumbing.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago
I like how you Arch guys seem to paint rest of us as some old folks who upate once a year our packages. I was literally running pacman -Suy weekly, but none of that should matter. It is the distribution maintainers and the package managers literal job to keep the OS running and runnable. It shouldn't matter how often I update my packages they should be migrated from one version to the next like any sane package manager does. >It's build for experienced Linux techs who like to engage on a regular basis with the plumbing. Yeah, sure. This is where the "Linux is only free if your time has no value" saying comes from. I think I've said this in all comments in the thread, but if it isn't abundantly clear anyone is free to use any distro they want or any OS for that matter (I use all major 3 almost daily), but I would not recommend anyone to use Arch unless they are willing to spend a lot of time fiddling with their machine and I wouldn't install it on anything that I might have to use at a moments notice since as I've been told part of Arch is that updating your packages just breaks your OS.
- bscphil 5y ago
  > I would not recommend anyone to use Arch unless they are willing to spend a lot of time fiddling with their machine and I wouldn't install it on anything that I might have to use at a moments notice since as I've been told part of Arch is that updating your packages just breaks your OS. Yes, exactly right. As an Arch user, I endorse this.

by spinax 5y ago

nextlevelwizard 5y ago

I like how you Arch guys seem to paint rest of us as some old folks who upate once a year our packages. I was literally running pacman -Suy weekly, but none of that should matter. It is the distribution maintainers and the package managers literal job to keep the OS running and runnable. It shouldn't matter how often I update my packages they should be migrated from one version to the next like any sane package manager does. >It's build for experienced Linux techs who like to engage on a regular basis with the plumbing. Yeah, sure. This is where the "Linux is only free if your time has no value" saying comes from. I think I've said this in all comments in the thread, but if it isn't abundantly clear anyone is free to use any distro they want or any OS for that matter (I use all major 3 almost daily), but I would not recommend anyone to use Arch unless they are willing to spend a lot of time fiddling with their machine and I wouldn't install it on anything that I might have to use at a moments notice since as I've been told part of Arch is that updating your packages just breaks your OS.

bscphil 5y ago
> I would not recommend anyone to use Arch unless they are willing to spend a lot of time fiddling with their machine and I wouldn't install it on anything that I might have to use at a moments notice since as I've been told part of Arch is that updating your packages just breaks your OS. Yes, exactly right. As an Arch user, I endorse this.