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This movement is not about security. It's about control. This is a decision that benefits their business and it doesn't matter if they need to force you into s

This movement is not about security. It's about control. This is a decision that benefits their business and it doesn't matter if they need to force you into something. The practical effect is they are forcing you to spend more money. They win and their business partners win.

relativ575 5y ago
When one buys a product one literally buys into the product vision of the vendor. But if you also win, then it's a win-win, isn't it?
- akagusu 5y ago
  The problem you never win and never will. Our economic system has a win-lose structure. Big companies like Microsoft make billions not because they sell lots of good products and services that everyone buys, quite contrary. They sell shitty products and services and force them to buyers making sure to extract every single penny you have even when they are not providing value for you anymore.
noir_lord 5y ago
> The practical effect is they are forcing you to spend more money. In the average case sure, in my case nope. I currently dual boot windows 10 and Fedora with Windows 10 been strictly for gaming only. I bought a windows 10 licence for that. I won't buy a windows 11 license for that. I'll game on Fedora where I can and will buy a console for everything else (and probably for the first time a PS not Xbox since I've owned every version of Xbox but the current one).
- Kim_Bruning 5y ago
  Today, a lot of steam games will run just fine on Proton with a few clicks. Windows is no longer an absolute requirement for gaming.
  - m-p-3 5y ago
    It all goes to shit when the game requires an anticheat on Windows like EAC. I wish more game developers either provided a native port, or at least made sure the anticheat system wasn't tripped when running in /Proton.
- rhengles 5y ago
  If you have a Windows 10 license, you already have a Windows 11 "license", since the update is free.

relativ575 5y ago

When one buys a product one literally buys into the product vision of the vendor. But if you also win, then it's a win-win, isn't it?

akagusu 5y ago
The problem you never win and never will. Our economic system has a win-lose structure. Big companies like Microsoft make billions not because they sell lots of good products and services that everyone buys, quite contrary. They sell shitty products and services and force them to buyers making sure to extract every single penny you have even when they are not providing value for you anymore.

noir_lord 5y ago

> The practical effect is they are forcing you to spend more money. In the average case sure, in my case nope. I currently dual boot windows 10 and Fedora with Windows 10 been strictly for gaming only. I bought a windows 10 licence for that. I won't buy a windows 11 license for that. I'll game on Fedora where I can and will buy a console for everything else (and probably for the first time a PS not Xbox since I've owned every version of Xbox but the current one).

Kim_Bruning 5y ago
Today, a lot of steam games will run just fine on Proton with a few clicks. Windows is no longer an absolute requirement for gaming.
- m-p-3 5y ago
  It all goes to shit when the game requires an anticheat on Windows like EAC. I wish more game developers either provided a native port, or at least made sure the anticheat system wasn't tripped when running in /Proton.
rhengles 5y ago
If you have a Windows 10 license, you already have a Windows 11 "license", since the update is free.