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> I think that some of the quotes are pretty toxic, regardless of who they are by. They are indeed, aren't they? I mean, they straight up sound like bullying

by rualca 5y ago

> I think that some of the quotes are pretty toxic, regardless of who they are by. They are indeed, aren't they? I mean, they straight up sound like bullying those who happen to not think alike or share the same opinion. Those who are in the right are able to form rational arguments, raise concerns about specific problems, and offer solutions. But no, not in this case. The only reason for anyone to not be a diehard supporters of the author's point of view is that they have mutilated minds and are coding bums.

wsc981 5y ago
> Those who are in the right are able to form rational arguments, raise concerns about specific problems, and offer solutions. But no, not in this case. The only reason for anyone to not be a diehard supporters of the author's point of view is that they have mutilated minds and are coding bums. Don't we take things a bit too serious these days? I've started programming with BASIC and I find the quotes kinda funny - I don't take it too serious and I am not sure if Dijkstra was being dead serious here either. For example: would anyone really think Dijkstra was in favour of locking COBOL teachers behind bars?
- rualca 5y ago
  > Don't we take things a bit too serious these days? I agree that this self righteous fake outrage targeted at those who point out bullying and abuse gets a bit too tiring, and adds nothing to the discussion. This is a very good example. Calling out the lack of rational arguments or any reasoning regarding a technical subject, and resorting to abuse to fill the void with ad hominem and bullying, is expected to be addressed with explanations on the technical merits of the original proposals. But no, here we are wasting time with chatter that boils down to "why aren't you ok with being subjected to abuse? Don't we need to roll over and shut up when someone throws ad hominems?" I guess we don't? But it seems that some people whine when they can't take what they are dishing out.

by rualca 5y ago

wsc981 5y ago

> Those who are in the right are able to form rational arguments, raise concerns about specific problems, and offer solutions. But no, not in this case. The only reason for anyone to not be a diehard supporters of the author's point of view is that they have mutilated minds and are coding bums. Don't we take things a bit too serious these days? I've started programming with BASIC and I find the quotes kinda funny - I don't take it too serious and I am not sure if Dijkstra was being dead serious here either. For example: would anyone really think Dijkstra was in favour of locking COBOL teachers behind bars?

rualca 5y ago
> Don't we take things a bit too serious these days? I agree that this self righteous fake outrage targeted at those who point out bullying and abuse gets a bit too tiring, and adds nothing to the discussion. This is a very good example. Calling out the lack of rational arguments or any reasoning regarding a technical subject, and resorting to abuse to fill the void with ad hominem and bullying, is expected to be addressed with explanations on the technical merits of the original proposals. But no, here we are wasting time with chatter that boils down to "why aren't you ok with being subjected to abuse? Don't we need to roll over and shut up when someone throws ad hominems?" I guess we don't? But it seems that some people whine when they can't take what they are dishing out.