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> carpet bombing Gaza indiscriminately It's just their words against theirs. I don't know what happened to the anti-Arab chanters, in my opinion, they should

by truth_ 5y ago

> carpet bombing Gaza indiscriminately It's just their words against theirs. I don't know what happened to the anti-Arab chanters, in my opinion, they should be sued (and arrested when appropriate). And "Israelis" did not shout those. They were from an ultra nationalist faction. It's not Israelis vs. Palestinians. It's Hamas wanting to kill every Jew it can, and Israel attacking Hamas to save its citizens, and then innocent Palestinians getting killed because they were used as human shield by Hamas. If Hamas stops ruling Gaza, and the leadership are properly brought to justice, and Israel still does what it is doing today, I will turn pro-Palestine in a heartbeat. And honestly I don't like the power orthodox Rabbis have in Israel. I am opposed to clergy- Jew, Islamic, Hindu- does not matter.

Udik 5y ago
> It's Hamas wanting to kill every Jew it can You bet. Jews immigrated en masse to Palestine, then used their leverage at the UN to have half of the country assigned to themselves alone, then proceeded to ethnic cleanse as many Arab villages as possible. In the decades Israel has used every possible excuse to occupy more land, in violation of all laws and agreements, and install their population, while harassing, persecuting, and killing the indigenous population. You bet that Hamas wants to kill them! It's because they're vicious anti-semite? No. (By the way, jokes apart: no, Hamas doesn't want to kill all the Jews and has officially said so: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full )
ireallydontcar3 5y ago
I think the main question from op was this- it completely rips apart all the propaganda you’ve been writing throughout this thread. > How do you explain the ongoing eviction, backed by IDF enforcement, of Sheikh Jarrah? If Palestinians have equal rights and Israel has stopped occupying Gaza and encroaching on Gazan land, why are there constant clashes between settlers and Gazans in the West Bank? The fact that you ignored that question in favor of Hamas wanting to destroy Israel (which is a well known, undisputed fact) honestly shows you the know the truth and are complicit in deceit. I’m curious do you work directly for the IDF, or are you from the group of people who just hate Arabs and wish they’d disappear?
- dang 5y ago
  We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - ireallydontcar3 5y ago
    Banned which account? And I’m curious why some of these “political” posts break site guidelines but others do not. I see political discussions on Crimea and China. Are the guidelines specific to Israel and Palestinians?
    - dang 5y ago
      "This account" means "the account I'm currently replying to". No, of course the guidelines aren't specific that way. Not all political posts are off topic, but everyone needs to follow the site guidelines, and the rules apply more, not less, as a topic gets more divisive: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. That does not mean that every post that breaks the site guidelines gets moderated, though, for the simple reason that we don't see everything that gets posted here. There's far too much for us to read it all. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. People can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=likeliest%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
      - ireallydontcar3 5y ago
        To be clear, you can go ahead and ban whatever accounts you’d like. This thread is currently trending on the front page, and it’s as political as this post. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27646686 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27646686 But that thread hasn’t been flagged, nor are you going out of your way to ban posters in that thread. But the account you replied to was mine, and you’re banning me because the Israel Palestine issue seems to be censured by Hacker News. You can just admit that instead of hiding behind site policies and guidelines. “We won’t allow criticism of Israel.” If you want to be a cog for Israeli propaganda, that’s fine. Why hide behind site guidelines and not fess to it? It’s pretty spineless and cowardly, no?

by truth_ 5y ago

Udik 5y ago

> It's Hamas wanting to kill every Jew it can You bet. Jews immigrated en masse to Palestine, then used their leverage at the UN to have half of the country assigned to themselves alone, then proceeded to ethnic cleanse as many Arab villages as possible. In the decades Israel has used every possible excuse to occupy more land, in violation of all laws and agreements, and install their population, while harassing, persecuting, and killing the indigenous population. You bet that Hamas wants to kill them! It's because they're vicious anti-semite? No. (By the way, jokes apart: no, Hamas doesn't want to kill all the Jews and has officially said so: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full )

ireallydontcar3 5y ago

I think the main question from op was this- it completely rips apart all the propaganda you’ve been writing throughout this thread. > How do you explain the ongoing eviction, backed by IDF enforcement, of Sheikh Jarrah? If Palestinians have equal rights and Israel has stopped occupying Gaza and encroaching on Gazan land, why are there constant clashes between settlers and Gazans in the West Bank? The fact that you ignored that question in favor of Hamas wanting to destroy Israel (which is a well known, undisputed fact) honestly shows you the know the truth and are complicit in deceit. I’m curious do you work directly for the IDF, or are you from the group of people who just hate Arabs and wish they’d disappear?

dang 5y ago
We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- ireallydontcar3 5y ago
  Banned which account? And I’m curious why some of these “political” posts break site guidelines but others do not. I see political discussions on Crimea and China. Are the guidelines specific to Israel and Palestinians?
  - dang 5y ago
    "This account" means "the account I'm currently replying to". No, of course the guidelines aren't specific that way. Not all political posts are off topic, but everyone needs to follow the site guidelines, and the rules apply more, not less, as a topic gets more divisive: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. That does not mean that every post that breaks the site guidelines gets moderated, though, for the simple reason that we don't see everything that gets posted here. There's far too much for us to read it all. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. People can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=likeliest%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
    - ireallydontcar3 5y ago
      To be clear, you can go ahead and ban whatever accounts you’d like. This thread is currently trending on the front page, and it’s as political as this post. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27646686 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27646686 But that thread hasn’t been flagged, nor are you going out of your way to ban posters in that thread. But the account you replied to was mine, and you’re banning me because the Israel Palestine issue seems to be censured by Hacker News. You can just admit that instead of hiding behind site policies and guidelines. “We won’t allow criticism of Israel.” If you want to be a cog for Israeli propaganda, that’s fine. Why hide behind site guidelines and not fess to it? It’s pretty spineless and cowardly, no?