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It is about Tech platforms deciding to side with Israel and silencing palestinians in social media. We have had plenty of discussions here about social media ce

It is about Tech platforms deciding to side with Israel and silencing palestinians in social media. We have had plenty of discussions here about social media censorship (especially during covid and trump era). This is a valid discussion as well as it is about human rights. If we can talk and about Indian and Nigerian, or Chinese censorship against the Uyghurs and the Tiananmen square masacre, then we can talk about Israeli censorship war against the Palestinians as well. Also Computer Ethics is part of the Computer Science curriculum in most colleges, and part of technology. We are not going to solve this conflict here, but we should know where censorship in tech is being used to suppress the voice of a whole population. I was born in a communist country (Albania), and censorship in media was used to suppress the voice of the people in order to prop up a brutal regime. "In addition to using social media to incriminate Palestinians, Israel has also used it to muzzle us. In 2016, Israel’s then-Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked boasted that, in the previous four-month period, Facebook had complied with 95% of Israel’s requests to remove Palestinian content on the vague basis of “incitement.” A year later, Israel tried to push the “Facebook Bill” through the Knesset, legislation which would force Facebook to remove any content designated as “incitement.” "

truth_ 5y ago
If your post calls for destroying Israel, then it deserves to be removed. You might not know, but hardline Sunni Muslims are very racist towards Jews. They regularly quote verses from the Quran and Hadiths where Jews are incarnations of satans and should not be tolerated. They also regularly quote anti-non Muslim quotes in social media calling them Kafirs. If you live near a significant population of hardliner Sunni Muslims, you'd know this. Bengali social media is filled with such rhetoric. There were open celebration of the French teacher getting beheaded for the Muhammad cartoon. Seeking the death of all Jews is very common. Such posts deserve to be removed. You call for death of an entire ethnicity, that is valid reason of posts getting removed.
- spamizbad 5y ago
  > If your post calls for destroying Israel, then it deserves to be removed. There are tons of posts from Americans talking about wiping various countries off the map. Should those posts also be removed? Should those users be banned?
  - truth_ 5y ago
    Yes. If they are racially motivated, and shows hatred towards a whole ethinicity and people, yes, the posts should be removed and the users banned after repeat violations.
    - spamizbad 5y ago
      Sounds like you've set a system up full of semantic issues. For example, saying "Death to Israel" is in pretty clear violation of this rule. But what about "Turn Iraq into a glass parking lot"? Someone could argue that they aren't targeting a "whole ethnicity" because Iraq is simply one of many Arab/Muslim-majority nations - and not even in the top 3 most populous Arab countries. After all, the person didn't say "Kill every Muslim" nor did they say "Bomb all Muslim countries" -- they just stated one of MANY countries that happens to be majority Muslim.
      - truth_ 5y ago
        No I am not one of those. If somebody says Turn Iraq into a glass parking lot, they should be banned after repeat violations, and their post should be removed.
    - Udik 5y ago
      So you're saying that the posts should be removed not because of what they say but because of their motives. And who decides what are the posts motives? You, of course. Israel is running a slow-motion ethnic cleansing campaign against Palestinians, practices apartheid, and violates international law by building settlements on occupied territories... but you say that the reason Palestinians hate Israelis is because of their race? Yeah, sure.
      - truth_ 5y ago
        Race is a very important component on Paletinians hating Jews. You are uninformed in this matter. You can find rampant anti-Jewish sentiment in Quran and Hadith, and they are widely circulated in social media. You maybe living in the West where such posts are not circulated, but they exist outside of your sphere. There are two narratives. One in English- where they are the victims, and they need saving. Another one in Arabic, where they call for genocide of the Jewish people regularly. And these were brought into my attention by my friends speaking Arabic. Just because this narrative exists outside your focus and periphery, does not mean it does not exist.
- oliwarner 5y ago
  Is it not okay to ask for a partial reconstruction? Israel occupies land that is internationally recognised as not being Israel's. Demanding restitution, even occupation to enforce a peace. They're all extremely difficult ideas if you're Israeli, but perhaps required to start to put a broken situation right.
- dang 5y ago
  If you continue to post religious/racial/whatever flamewar comments to HN, we will ban you. You've done it repeatedly and it is not what this site is for—quite the opposite. No more of this please. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: also, please stop creating multiple accounts. Edit 2: actually, you've been breaking the site guidelines enough that I've banned your account. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27645941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27645941.

truth_ 5y ago

If your post calls for destroying Israel, then it deserves to be removed. You might not know, but hardline Sunni Muslims are very racist towards Jews. They regularly quote verses from the Quran and Hadiths where Jews are incarnations of satans and should not be tolerated. They also regularly quote anti-non Muslim quotes in social media calling them Kafirs. If you live near a significant population of hardliner Sunni Muslims, you'd know this. Bengali social media is filled with such rhetoric. There were open celebration of the French teacher getting beheaded for the Muhammad cartoon. Seeking the death of all Jews is very common. Such posts deserve to be removed. You call for death of an entire ethnicity, that is valid reason of posts getting removed.

spamizbad 5y ago
> If your post calls for destroying Israel, then it deserves to be removed. There are tons of posts from Americans talking about wiping various countries off the map. Should those posts also be removed? Should those users be banned?
- truth_ 5y ago
  Yes. If they are racially motivated, and shows hatred towards a whole ethinicity and people, yes, the posts should be removed and the users banned after repeat violations.
  - spamizbad 5y ago
    Sounds like you've set a system up full of semantic issues. For example, saying "Death to Israel" is in pretty clear violation of this rule. But what about "Turn Iraq into a glass parking lot"? Someone could argue that they aren't targeting a "whole ethnicity" because Iraq is simply one of many Arab/Muslim-majority nations - and not even in the top 3 most populous Arab countries. After all, the person didn't say "Kill every Muslim" nor did they say "Bomb all Muslim countries" -- they just stated one of MANY countries that happens to be majority Muslim.
    - truth_ 5y ago
      No I am not one of those. If somebody says Turn Iraq into a glass parking lot, they should be banned after repeat violations, and their post should be removed.
  - Udik 5y ago
    So you're saying that the posts should be removed not because of what they say but because of their motives. And who decides what are the posts motives? You, of course. Israel is running a slow-motion ethnic cleansing campaign against Palestinians, practices apartheid, and violates international law by building settlements on occupied territories... but you say that the reason Palestinians hate Israelis is because of their race? Yeah, sure.
    - truth_ 5y ago
      Race is a very important component on Paletinians hating Jews. You are uninformed in this matter. You can find rampant anti-Jewish sentiment in Quran and Hadith, and they are widely circulated in social media. You maybe living in the West where such posts are not circulated, but they exist outside of your sphere. There are two narratives. One in English- where they are the victims, and they need saving. Another one in Arabic, where they call for genocide of the Jewish people regularly. And these were brought into my attention by my friends speaking Arabic. Just because this narrative exists outside your focus and periphery, does not mean it does not exist.
oliwarner 5y ago
Is it not okay to ask for a partial reconstruction? Israel occupies land that is internationally recognised as not being Israel's. Demanding restitution, even occupation to enforce a peace. They're all extremely difficult ideas if you're Israeli, but perhaps required to start to put a broken situation right.
dang 5y ago
If you continue to post religious/racial/whatever flamewar comments to HN, we will ban you. You've done it repeatedly and it is not what this site is for—quite the opposite. No more of this please. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: also, please stop creating multiple accounts. Edit 2: actually, you've been breaking the site guidelines enough that I've banned your account. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27645941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27645941.