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>>most people with mental illness are already afraid of being blamed and targeted. On what evidence do you base this on?

eyelidlessness 5y ago
Being a person with mental illness in a community of people with mental illness and routinely talking about this all day long every day
- CryptoPunk 5y ago
  It could be that the people who have the type of mental illnesses that are associated with fear of social persecution/rejection are the kind that seek a community of people with a similar affliction, while those with anti-social mental illnesses, like sociopathy, do not.
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    It could be that the people who don't understand mental illness characterize it in harmful ways and people with mental illness who associate together are readily familiar with that.
    - CryptoPunk 5y ago
      How do you know I don't mental illness? And how was the way I characterized it harmful?
      - eyelidlessness 5y ago
        I didn’t say either of those things. But in the interest of being candid, I think it’s harmful to categorize mental illness as socially bad versus socially good. My ADHD and Autism are both often characterized as socially bad, and I’m just a person who struggles to take care of myself or maintain communication with my friends and family.
        HappyDreamer 5y ago
        > My ADHD and Autism I can understand if you feel bad about the article, then. Autism is a bit often discussed here at HN, is it? At the same time, the article focuses on borderline (BPD), which is very different from autism or ADHD, is it? I had a mental illness too (something else than BPD, autism and ADHD). Like you, I didn't write or say anything bad to others. Still, I appreciate the article, I think it's a small step for me towards understanding the Internet even better: I know a borderline person, and I'm not the slightest surprised if in some cases, such a person can write extremely mean things to others on the internet. The person I know, does this in real life to people s/he loves, when too stressed up (about minor things others wouldn't think much about). It's not her fault; instead, s/he had a bad childhood. (At the same time, there're also, of course, many other reasons for bad behavior on the net.)
        eyelidlessness 5y ago
        I know several people who are borderline. Some I know or have known quite closely. I don’t think it’s fair to characterize their contribution to harmful internet behavior as disproportionate without also quantifying their proportion of internet behavior (it’s small). And I definitely don’t think it’s fair to qualitatively describe the relative level of bad internet behavior of people with mental illness based on the behavior of people with personality disorders, which is just a subset of mental illness. Edit: and not all people with personality disorders just go around the world/internet acting harmfully.

eyelidlessness 5y ago

Being a person with mental illness in a community of people with mental illness and routinely talking about this all day long every day

CryptoPunk 5y ago
It could be that the people who have the type of mental illnesses that are associated with fear of social persecution/rejection are the kind that seek a community of people with a similar affliction, while those with anti-social mental illnesses, like sociopathy, do not.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  It could be that the people who don't understand mental illness characterize it in harmful ways and people with mental illness who associate together are readily familiar with that.
  - CryptoPunk 5y ago
    How do you know I don't mental illness? And how was the way I characterized it harmful?
    - eyelidlessness 5y ago
      I didn’t say either of those things. But in the interest of being candid, I think it’s harmful to categorize mental illness as socially bad versus socially good. My ADHD and Autism are both often characterized as socially bad, and I’m just a person who struggles to take care of myself or maintain communication with my friends and family.
      - HappyDreamer 5y ago
        > My ADHD and Autism I can understand if you feel bad about the article, then. Autism is a bit often discussed here at HN, is it? At the same time, the article focuses on borderline (BPD), which is very different from autism or ADHD, is it? I had a mental illness too (something else than BPD, autism and ADHD). Like you, I didn't write or say anything bad to others. Still, I appreciate the article, I think it's a small step for me towards understanding the Internet even better: I know a borderline person, and I'm not the slightest surprised if in some cases, such a person can write extremely mean things to others on the internet. The person I know, does this in real life to people s/he loves, when too stressed up (about minor things others wouldn't think much about). It's not her fault; instead, s/he had a bad childhood. (At the same time, there're also, of course, many other reasons for bad behavior on the net.)
        eyelidlessness 5y ago
        I know several people who are borderline. Some I know or have known quite closely. I don’t think it’s fair to characterize their contribution to harmful internet behavior as disproportionate without also quantifying their proportion of internet behavior (it’s small). And I definitely don’t think it’s fair to qualitatively describe the relative level of bad internet behavior of people with mental illness based on the behavior of people with personality disorders, which is just a subset of mental illness. Edit: and not all people with personality disorders just go around the world/internet acting harmfully.