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The amount of gaslighting, propaganda, changing narrative during this pandemic was honestly shocking. Trump was bad but it’s amazing to watch how suddenly thing

by foxes 5y ago

The amount of gaslighting, propaganda, changing narrative during this pandemic was honestly shocking. Trump was bad but it’s amazing to watch how suddenly things can be reversed. Which, is not an issue by itself, you adapt as you get more information, but claiming a position as absolute then changing after a month is. Not to mention all the political flaming and disinformation as propaganda for your “side”.

tpoacher 5y ago
In hindsight, this makes me wonder. What if similar Trump-related controversies had suffered a similar fate? Can we reliably say that would have looked very different to what we've actually experienced with our own eyes? And if not, is it reasonable to think that this mentality only started en-masse exactly with COVID, or could it possibly have been there for some time? (Just kidding. Orange man is obviously evil.)
- redis_mlc 5y ago
  Trump was correct on all policy decisions (corona airline stop, corona vaccine funding, the wall, anti-CCP policies.) Most of his tweets were casual, or in reply to others. He was not racist or evil - he was likely our best President since Roosevelt. If you think he's racist, link to a quote - there aren't any. Most of the major news stories against him have been retracted, while Biden/Harris issues have been suppressed (Hunter Biden graft from CCP and Ukraine, Joe Biden's senility, Harris' gross incompetence as a statesperson as seen in Latin America.) Both of the impeachments were staged, which is why they failed (#1 involved a paid foreign spy and Biden misusing the FISA court, #2 involving a falsified WaPo interview transcript with an election official.)
0xy 5y ago
The media and many members of the scientific community, wrapped in their "Trump is evil" orthodoxy, denounced everything that came out of his mouth, including the occasional truth. Their reputation now irreparably damaged. Vox called COVID overblown and then stealth edited those articles, only marking them as edited after being called out for it. New York Times has called lab leak theory "racist", repeatedly, including by their chief COVID reporter as recently as two weeks ago(!!!). Dr Fauci knowingly lied about the efficacy of masks, then railed against border closures from COVID embattled China, then knowingly lied about US funding of gain-of-function research to Congress. WHO has spent the last 18 months running crisis management for the Chinese Government ("no sign of person-to-person transmission" in late January), which has spent the same amount of time destroying evidence and covering up as much as possible. Facebook and Google until months ago was censoring lab leak theory left and right. Public and news media institutions collectively have revealed their complacency, political bias and ineptitude.
- eggy 5y ago
  Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA technology used for the current COVID vaccines, has been censored by YouTube for sharing his concerns about the safety of the vaccines. Informed concerns, not outright proclamations on them being unsafe, and this is a vaccine that has less than 8 months of doses, and yet they're telling everyone it is entirely safe even for young, still-growing humans. Natural immunity is not even being considered for letting people attend public events. There is data that the vaccine and its parts have larger bio-distribution than they should. There's a lot that doesn't smell right about the whole thing.

by foxes 5y ago

tpoacher 5y ago

In hindsight, this makes me wonder. What if similar Trump-related controversies had suffered a similar fate? Can we reliably say that would have looked very different to what we've actually experienced with our own eyes? And if not, is it reasonable to think that this mentality only started en-masse exactly with COVID, or could it possibly have been there for some time? (Just kidding. Orange man is obviously evil.)

redis_mlc 5y ago
Trump was correct on all policy decisions (corona airline stop, corona vaccine funding, the wall, anti-CCP policies.) Most of his tweets were casual, or in reply to others. He was not racist or evil - he was likely our best President since Roosevelt. If you think he's racist, link to a quote - there aren't any. Most of the major news stories against him have been retracted, while Biden/Harris issues have been suppressed (Hunter Biden graft from CCP and Ukraine, Joe Biden's senility, Harris' gross incompetence as a statesperson as seen in Latin America.) Both of the impeachments were staged, which is why they failed (#1 involved a paid foreign spy and Biden misusing the FISA court, #2 involving a falsified WaPo interview transcript with an election official.)

0xy 5y ago

The media and many members of the scientific community, wrapped in their "Trump is evil" orthodoxy, denounced everything that came out of his mouth, including the occasional truth. Their reputation now irreparably damaged. Vox called COVID overblown and then stealth edited those articles, only marking them as edited after being called out for it. New York Times has called lab leak theory "racist", repeatedly, including by their chief COVID reporter as recently as two weeks ago(!!!). Dr Fauci knowingly lied about the efficacy of masks, then railed against border closures from COVID embattled China, then knowingly lied about US funding of gain-of-function research to Congress. WHO has spent the last 18 months running crisis management for the Chinese Government ("no sign of person-to-person transmission" in late January), which has spent the same amount of time destroying evidence and covering up as much as possible. Facebook and Google until months ago was censoring lab leak theory left and right. Public and news media institutions collectively have revealed their complacency, political bias and ineptitude.

eggy 5y ago
Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA technology used for the current COVID vaccines, has been censored by YouTube for sharing his concerns about the safety of the vaccines. Informed concerns, not outright proclamations on them being unsafe, and this is a vaccine that has less than 8 months of doses, and yet they're telling everyone it is entirely safe even for young, still-growing humans. Natural immunity is not even being considered for letting people attend public events. There is data that the vaccine and its parts have larger bio-distribution than they should. There's a lot that doesn't smell right about the whole thing.