I don't mind a specific discussion. I react with negativity to two things: the expectation that the next step in the conversation can't happen without some fles

I don't mind a specific discussion. I react with negativity to two things: the expectation that the next step in the conversation can't happen without some fleshed-out perfected proposal, and the demand for someone else to come up with that solution, rather than making a positive contribution oneself. The problem isn't "asking you to be more concrete" because you can do that while avoiding those two negative contributions. For example, a response could have been: > How would you tailor that law? I have a hard time describing exactly what's wrong with dark patterns in a way I think would be enforceable, even though I know it when I see it. or > I think a law would have to be carefully written. One starting point might be requiring cancellation to be available using the same process as subscription - for example, if there's a signup form online, there must be an equivalent cancellation form. which are at least contributions rather than just an insistence that there's a problem that has to be addressed before these ideas can even be considered. Even just "what language would you propose?" without all the baggage of the original comment at least moves the discussion forward.