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I'd love to never hear about another coronavirus again. We went too far prescribing a certain agenda in the last year, and it's time to reflect on that. In my

I'd love to never hear about another coronavirus again. We went too far prescribing a certain agenda in the last year, and it's time to reflect on that. In my opinion studies and articles like this are doing more to fuel the fear porn than they are at teaching anything substantial.

f6v 5y ago
> I'd love to never hear about another coronavirus again. We should definitely hear about coronavirus again and again until everyone learns that millions of people might die unless we completely master immunology. Public awareness, safety measures, and vaccine development should get as much attention as possible until we have a pipeline that allows to develop and distribute vaccines in a matter of months. We never know what next pandemic might strike.
- throwaway4pooxi 5y ago
  Or ya know, stop creating them in labs. I'm down for working on some viruses, but it seems down right irresponsible to put a corona spike on a virus that would otherwise be hard to transmit. That's allegedly what happened, lets keep talking about it until we find out incase we're still doing it. I'd like to know whether we need to increase health measures, or clamp down on making these altered viruses that may have never occurred in nature. I'm more scared of bioweapons than nukes. The spread is much further.
- hatware 5y ago
  > until everyone learns See, that's the problem. You can't force anything, but you present it as a "must be done at all costs" proposition. That's very disingenuous. Regardless, I think you missed my point. Some of us are just sick and tired of every crusade that dominates the news cycle with severe lack of pragmatism. There are plenty of more important issues than coronavirus and it sounds like you're suffering from a lack of perspective.
  - f6v 5y ago
    > You can't force anything Sounds like you don’t have the right perspective.
    - Karsteski 5y ago
      Sounds like you enjoy legislating us into police states, to be honest.
      - f6v 5y ago
        Nothing wrong with strong government institutions.
        hatware 5y ago
        There is much wrong when the institutions cease to function for their citizens. I can't believe this has to be explained to you: Corporations and governments are working against the people every step of the way.
        f6v 5y ago
        I never mentioned corporations, don’t know why you conflate the two. As for the governments, I’ve lived in the EU for the majority of my independent, adult life. What you’re saying is foreign to me. And I don’t think it’s a universally accepted truth.
        hatware 5y ago
        > What you’re saying is foreign to me. Yes, as I said before: I think you're suffering from a lack of perspective.
        seppin 5y ago
        No he or she is simply coming from a place of high trust in the state, because the state mostly works. That's what your American perspective is lacking.
rsynnott 5y ago
Well, good luck with that. There have been three coronavirus epidemics in the last 20 years. And probably hundreds at least more throughout human history. And the current one won’t be entirely gone anytime soon.
- hatware 5y ago
  Epidemics don't need marketing departments, something that is very obviously part of the equation with "the current one."
  - rsynnott 5y ago
    … Wait, are you claiming that people weren’t terrified of SARS-1? That’s not how I remember it at all. We were lucky, that time, that’s all. If SARS-1 had had slightly different properties, much the same thing would have played out 17 years ago.

f6v 5y ago

> I'd love to never hear about another coronavirus again. We should definitely hear about coronavirus again and again until everyone learns that millions of people might die unless we completely master immunology. Public awareness, safety measures, and vaccine development should get as much attention as possible until we have a pipeline that allows to develop and distribute vaccines in a matter of months. We never know what next pandemic might strike.

throwaway4pooxi 5y ago
Or ya know, stop creating them in labs. I'm down for working on some viruses, but it seems down right irresponsible to put a corona spike on a virus that would otherwise be hard to transmit. That's allegedly what happened, lets keep talking about it until we find out incase we're still doing it. I'd like to know whether we need to increase health measures, or clamp down on making these altered viruses that may have never occurred in nature. I'm more scared of bioweapons than nukes. The spread is much further.
hatware 5y ago
> until everyone learns See, that's the problem. You can't force anything, but you present it as a "must be done at all costs" proposition. That's very disingenuous. Regardless, I think you missed my point. Some of us are just sick and tired of every crusade that dominates the news cycle with severe lack of pragmatism. There are plenty of more important issues than coronavirus and it sounds like you're suffering from a lack of perspective.
- f6v 5y ago
  > You can't force anything Sounds like you don’t have the right perspective.
  - Karsteski 5y ago
    Sounds like you enjoy legislating us into police states, to be honest.
    - f6v 5y ago
      Nothing wrong with strong government institutions.
      - hatware 5y ago
        There is much wrong when the institutions cease to function for their citizens. I can't believe this has to be explained to you: Corporations and governments are working against the people every step of the way.
        f6v 5y ago
        I never mentioned corporations, don’t know why you conflate the two. As for the governments, I’ve lived in the EU for the majority of my independent, adult life. What you’re saying is foreign to me. And I don’t think it’s a universally accepted truth.
        hatware 5y ago
        > What you’re saying is foreign to me. Yes, as I said before: I think you're suffering from a lack of perspective.
        seppin 5y ago
        No he or she is simply coming from a place of high trust in the state, because the state mostly works. That's what your American perspective is lacking.

rsynnott 5y ago

Well, good luck with that. There have been three coronavirus epidemics in the last 20 years. And probably hundreds at least more throughout human history. And the current one won’t be entirely gone anytime soon.

hatware 5y ago
Epidemics don't need marketing departments, something that is very obviously part of the equation with "the current one."
- rsynnott 5y ago
  … Wait, are you claiming that people weren’t terrified of SARS-1? That’s not how I remember it at all. We were lucky, that time, that’s all. If SARS-1 had had slightly different properties, much the same thing would have played out 17 years ago.