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> Seems like we've survived this many times as a species I'm reasonably sure the species will survive climate change. Some nation states, civilizations and cul

by _jal 5y ago

> Seems like we've survived this many times as a species I'm reasonably sure the species will survive climate change. Some nation states, civilizations and cultures' odds look more iffy. I think your bar for worry may be a bit higher than mine.

e40 5y ago
And specifically about a pandemic, even if 50% of humans died in it the species would continue, but that would very much be something to worry about. Even at much lower percentages it would be worrying. Or the fact that it could continue for generations.
- chiefalchemist 5y ago
  Fact it could continue? Or opinion it could continue? There's a significant difference. The latter is not science.
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  - kcartlidge 5y ago
    The comment (as you quoted) was: "Fact it could continue". Given that nobody knows with certainty that it can't, it is very much "fact" and not "opinion" that it could continue.
zamalek 5y ago
Yeah, it's like surviving falling from an airplane. You technically survive, but life will be extremely different.
- luhn 5y ago
  TIL you can likely survive a landing at terminal velocity just by orienting yourself feet-first and bending your knees.
  - outside1234 5y ago
    And probably ending up being unable to walk. That's what the OP is getting at.
    - Sebb767 5y ago
      Well, to be fair, you'll be unable to walk either way.
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cosmie 5y ago
It's not the climate change that'll get us, but each other. Left to nature alone, we'd likely evolve and adapt and survive in some form or fashion. But the advancement of humanity has led to all kinds of ways we could do ourselves in if we put our minds to it. And those nation states and civilizations facing iffy odds aren't likely to go down quietly. In the throws of desperation, all bets are off (why care about stuff like MAD[1] when you're already facing imminent destruction by nature). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction

by _jal 5y ago

e40 5y ago

And specifically about a pandemic, even if 50% of humans died in it the species would continue, but that would very much be something to worry about. Even at much lower percentages it would be worrying. Or the fact that it could continue for generations.

chiefalchemist 5y ago
Fact it could continue? Or opinion it could continue? There's a significant difference. The latter is not science.
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- kcartlidge 5y ago
  The comment (as you quoted) was: "Fact it could continue". Given that nobody knows with certainty that it can't, it is very much "fact" and not "opinion" that it could continue.

zamalek 5y ago

Yeah, it's like surviving falling from an airplane. You technically survive, but life will be extremely different.

luhn 5y ago
TIL you can likely survive a landing at terminal velocity just by orienting yourself feet-first and bending your knees.
- outside1234 5y ago
  And probably ending up being unable to walk. That's what the OP is getting at.
  - Sebb767 5y ago
    Well, to be fair, you'll be unable to walk either way.
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cosmie 5y ago

It's not the climate change that'll get us, but each other. Left to nature alone, we'd likely evolve and adapt and survive in some form or fashion. But the advancement of humanity has led to all kinds of ways we could do ourselves in if we put our minds to it. And those nation states and civilizations facing iffy odds aren't likely to go down quietly. In the throws of desperation, all bets are off (why care about stuff like MAD[1] when you're already facing imminent destruction by nature). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction