That's the story people might tell, but it's untrue. Interest rates are low. Panasonic has a medium investment-grade credit rating. Yields those bonds would be

That's the story people might tell, but it's untrue. Interest rates are low. Panasonic has a medium investment-grade credit rating. Yields those bonds would be something like 3.5%. Panasonic would rather sell Tesla shares to fund a project than pay 3.5% interest.