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I am failing to see the motivation for anyone to use this. If you cared about privacy, you wouldn't share your data in the first place. If you didn't care about

I am failing to see the motivation for anyone to use this. If you cared about privacy, you wouldn't share your data in the first place. If you didn't care about privacy, there is still no reason to opt in.

9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
> The motivation is enabling crowdsourced scientific research that benefits society. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27630188 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27630188
- lawl 5y ago
  > crowdsourced scientific research that benefits society. how, in your words, would the covid19 news misinformation study benefit society?
  - 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
    One example, without having read further into that particular study, but knowing what misinformation research tries to do, generally, would be the following: Identifying the specific mechanisms behind the dark patterns of social engineering. There is a body of research, for example, that considers the spread of rumors by making use of the same mathematical models that epidemiology uses to model the spread of infectious disease (virality, in particular). As I recall, that body of research led to the conclusion that the best weapon against misinformation may be the liberal and broad application of truth-telling.
errantmind 5y ago
Agreed. I'm in the former group. You aren't getting my data, stop trying. That may seem harsh, but that is where I'm at. I'm really put off by the idea of sharing my data these days. I don't trust Mozilla's internal audit process to keep it safe, but it isn't specific to them. Outside of maybe a two companies who are 'encryption-first', I don't trust any of them
renewiltord 5y ago
Yeah, I’m big on this stuff because I like scientific studies to be biased towards me. So like, imagine there is some treatment for a disease that only works on people who live in San Francisco. My ideal outcome is that the study is accidentally biased to serve us and that all of America pays for this medicine. Ideally, all outcomes are tailored to me through sheer participation bias. Sure sure, everyone knows that sampling bias exists but there is a systemic human bias to what has been measured. I intend to exploit that. And as for my data, Equifax got the most sensitive stuff so I’m not worried about anything else.

9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago

> The motivation is enabling crowdsourced scientific research that benefits society. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27630188 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27630188

lawl 5y ago
> crowdsourced scientific research that benefits society. how, in your words, would the covid19 news misinformation study benefit society?
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
  One example, without having read further into that particular study, but knowing what misinformation research tries to do, generally, would be the following: Identifying the specific mechanisms behind the dark patterns of social engineering. There is a body of research, for example, that considers the spread of rumors by making use of the same mathematical models that epidemiology uses to model the spread of infectious disease (virality, in particular). As I recall, that body of research led to the conclusion that the best weapon against misinformation may be the liberal and broad application of truth-telling.

errantmind 5y ago

Agreed. I'm in the former group. You aren't getting my data, stop trying. That may seem harsh, but that is where I'm at. I'm really put off by the idea of sharing my data these days. I don't trust Mozilla's internal audit process to keep it safe, but it isn't specific to them. Outside of maybe a two companies who are 'encryption-first', I don't trust any of them

renewiltord 5y ago

Yeah, I’m big on this stuff because I like scientific studies to be biased towards me. So like, imagine there is some treatment for a disease that only works on people who live in San Francisco. My ideal outcome is that the study is accidentally biased to serve us and that all of America pays for this medicine. Ideally, all outcomes are tailored to me through sheer participation bias. Sure sure, everyone knows that sampling bias exists but there is a systemic human bias to what has been measured. I intend to exploit that. And as for my data, Equifax got the most sensitive stuff so I’m not worried about anything else.